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Would anyone who supports US forced/assisted regime change be considered pro war?

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:21 am pro-war?

that’s like calling people pro-abortion

If you looked at his voting record... I know you haven't done so.

you don’t know shit about me, but good try

now go watch some youtube videos

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:48 pm you don’t know shit about me, but good try

now go watch some youtube videos

QFT

If you think Bernie is anti-war, I know you're uninformed on what he actually has done. It's very clearly out there for anyone to see as a public record -- he's voted yes on military action numerous times when Obama or Clinton were president. Judge a person by what they do, not what they say.

lobster wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:32 pm Judge a person by what they do, not what they say.

Be careful with this.....

What took so long?

Biden says 'poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids'

I was just about to post that if Biden somehow wins the 2020 election do we need to start a new Dumbfuck in charge thread? He is going to have a whole lotta embarrassing sound bites.

I like Joe Biden as a person. I don't believe I would like him in the role of President of the United States of America.
Frankly, as intelligent as he may be, I do believe his mind is going to get progressively noticeably weaker and the right is going to point it out each and every day. That's not going to help old Joe. I feel it's inevitable that more people on the left are going to move away from supporting than towards supporting him going forward.

lobster wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:32 pm If you think Bernie is anti-war, I know you're uninformed on what he actually has done. It's very clearly out there for anyone to see as a public record -- he's voted yes on military action numerous times when Obama or Clinton were president. Judge a person by what they do, not what they say.

Personally, I think it's lazy simpleton logic to label anyone "pro-war" or "anti-war" based on their voting history. Sanders has voted appropriately on a case by case basis. Trying to slap a label on it as a result of your five second analysis is just lazy trolling.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:36 am

lobster wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:32 pm If you think Bernie is anti-war, I know you're uninformed on what he actually has done. It's very clearly out there for anyone to see as a public record -- he's voted yes on military action numerous times when Obama or Clinton were president. Judge a person by what they do, not what they say.

Personally, I think it's lazy simpleton logic to label anyone "pro-war" or "anti-war" based on their voting history. Sanders has voted appropriately on a case by case basis. Trying to slap a label on it as a result of your five second analysis is just lazy trolling.

I think you mean "verified," doncha?

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:00 am What took so long?

Biden says 'poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids'

Biden is a 1980s Democrat trying to be crammed into a 2019 Democrat's role. He is a forced fit due to the fact that some people are scared of another Trump term so they are propping up the reliable, safe old white guy and calling it "electability".

He is only the best choice if the goal is only to beat Trump. It shouldn't be. Trump can be beat by whoever comes out on the Dem. ticket so they need to focus on putting out the candidate who would best serve the majority of the nation's desire to resume the drive to progress forward.

I watched the Bernie podcast with Joe Rogan.
That old dude is really smart.

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:13 am I watched the Bernie podcast with Joe Rogan.
That old dude is really smart.

Thought the same thing even though I'm not a big bernie fan.

It would be refreshing to have an intelligent President again.

Biden was already a gaffe machine - but age has taken a toll. It's worse now, and he's having trouble finishing sentences and thoughts.

My worry is that everyone close to him in the polls is far left. So by the time people realize it, it may already be too late for anyone that I would find votable to get enough delegates.

Also watched Obama's full speech from a few days ago.

Holy fuck......what a great orator.

Mjl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:34 am Biden was already a gaffe machine - but age has taken a toll. It's worse now, and he's having trouble finishing sentences and thoughts.

My worry is that everyone close to him in the polls is far left. So by the time people realize it, it may already be too late for anyone that I would find votable to get enough delegates.

It's why Biden continues to do well in the polls.

seahawk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:42 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:34 am Biden was already a gaffe machine - but age has taken a toll. It's worse now, and he's having trouble finishing sentences and thoughts.

My worry is that everyone close to him in the polls is far left. So by the time people realize it, it may already be too late for anyone that I would find votable to get enough delegates.

It's why Biden continues to do well in the polls.

Yep.

I think name recognition might be it as well though. Personally, and I say this as someone who caucussed for Biden in Iowa in 08 and wanted him as President then - I want to see him out of this race as soon as possible so that a more mentally with-it, less gaffe-prone "moderate" can emerge. Hell, even Yang, who I fundamentally disagree with on his major issue, would be fine.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:36 am

lobster wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:32 pm If you think Bernie is anti-war, I know you're uninformed on what he actually has done. It's very clearly out there for anyone to see as a public record -- he's voted yes on military action numerous times when Obama or Clinton were president. Judge a person by what they do, not what they say.

Personally, I think it's lazy simpleton logic to label anyone "pro-war" or "anti-war" based on their voting history. Sanders has voted appropriately on a case by case basis. Trying to slap a label on it as a result of your five second analysis is just lazy trolling.

i was trying not to say it