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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 2:51 pm
by DCHawk1
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:05 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 1:44 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 1:38 pm I think what HD is saying is that its totally reasonable for high risk individuals to remain in lock down for the foreseeable future until a vaccine or effective treatment is in place.

For others its reasonable to begin resuming life in some form of new normal because they're healthy enough that they'll likely survive covid19 if they get it. This category should absolutely still be cautious and take measures to help prevent the spread.

Everyone has different risk factors and risk tolerance. Everyone has to weigh their personal situation (health and financial).

I am being overly cautious...but I'm also aware that everything can't stay shutdown for the next 6months+. Eventually there will be massive business closures (its already happening). Eventually we will run out of food supply if enough people aren't working. There just isn't a 1 size fits all solution.
That is essentially what I am saying. Somebody has to work and spend money to pay taxes to take care of those who can’t. I hate to keep using the term “common sense”, but it fits.
Hey, wouldn't it be cool if, somehow, there were tax dollars available for these scenarios....and not being used to buy a 3rd yacht or a 5th vacation home?
You leave Bernie alone!

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 2:51 pm
by Deleted User 310
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:05 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 1:44 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 1:38 pm I think what HD is saying is that its totally reasonable for high risk individuals to remain in lock down for the foreseeable future until a vaccine or effective treatment is in place.

For others its reasonable to begin resuming life in some form of new normal because they're healthy enough that they'll likely survive covid19 if they get it. This category should absolutely still be cautious and take measures to help prevent the spread.

Everyone has different risk factors and risk tolerance. Everyone has to weigh their personal situation (health and financial).

I am being overly cautious...but I'm also aware that everything can't stay shutdown for the next 6months+. Eventually there will be massive business closures (its already happening). Eventually we will run out of food supply if enough people aren't working. There just isn't a 1 size fits all solution.
That is essentially what I am saying. Somebody has to work and spend money to pay taxes to take care of those who can’t. I hate to keep using the term “common sense”, but it fits.
Hey, wouldn't it be cool if, somehow, there were tax dollars available for these scenarios....and not being used to buy a 3rd yacht or a 5th vacation home?
So what is the maximum amount of yachts or vacation homes a person should be allowed to own?

Maybe it is just how your statement is worded that makes me roll my eyes...because I'm all for the super rich paying their fair share of taxes (or even a little more than their fair share)...i don't like the idea of the government confiscation of assets when someone is deemed to have "too much" of something.

(None of that meant in a smart ass way directed towards you)

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 3:22 pm
by seahawk
Oh gosh, 99, best thoughts going out for all of you.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 3:23 pm
by Shirley
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 10:49 am Ugh. The very best wishes to them and you, 99.
^^^

Very sorry to hear this 99. We'll be thinking about you and waiting for updates.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 3:41 pm
by HouseDivided
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:05 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 1:44 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 1:38 pm I think what HD is saying is that its totally reasonable for high risk individuals to remain in lock down for the foreseeable future until a vaccine or effective treatment is in place.

For others its reasonable to begin resuming life in some form of new normal because they're healthy enough that they'll likely survive covid19 if they get it. This category should absolutely still be cautious and take measures to help prevent the spread.

Everyone has different risk factors and risk tolerance. Everyone has to weigh their personal situation (health and financial).

I am being overly cautious...but I'm also aware that everything can't stay shutdown for the next 6months+. Eventually there will be massive business closures (its already happening). Eventually we will run out of food supply if enough people aren't working. There just isn't a 1 size fits all solution.
That is essentially what I am saying. Somebody has to work and spend money to pay taxes to take care of those who can’t. I hate to keep using the term “common sense”, but it fits.
Hey, wouldn't it be cool if, somehow, there were tax dollars available for these scenarios....and not being used to buy a 3rd yacht or a 5th vacation home?
I’ve never been in the position to know what that’s like, so I can’t speak to it.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 6:02 pm
by Deleted User 62
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 3:41 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:05 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 1:44 pm

That is essentially what I am saying. Somebody has to work and spend money to pay taxes to take care of those who can’t. I hate to keep using the term “common sense”, but it fits.
Hey, wouldn't it be cool if, somehow, there were tax dollars available for these scenarios....and not being used to buy a 3rd yacht or a 5th vacation home?
I’ve never been in the position to know what that’s like, so I can’t speak to it.
Don't worry. You are more than doing your part by standing on the sideline....clapping...and shouting BRAVO!

It's both cute and sad that you enjoy the dry fucking you endure...right along side of the rest of us who aren't neccesarily on board.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:01 pm
by HouseDivided
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:02 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 3:41 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:05 pm

Hey, wouldn't it be cool if, somehow, there were tax dollars available for these scenarios....and not being used to buy a 3rd yacht or a 5th vacation home?
I’ve never been in the position to know what that’s like, so I can’t speak to it.
Don't worry. You are more than doing your part by standing on the sideline....clapping...and shouting BRAVO!

It's both cute and sad that you enjoy the dry fucking you endure...right along side of the rest of us who aren't neccesarily on board.
I honestly don't know what you are trying to imply. I do hope your day gets better.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:38 pm
by pdub
Despite the fact that HD has been in the past, from my opinion, borderline racist ( and yea, this is apt, and of course, subjective ) and sexist, he’s been much better lately to understanding another side ( though with disagreements ) and responding well to an onslaught of attacks with non attacks.

Now there might be some people who think that because I’m saying this, that I’m defending HD or siding with him, but then maybe they could just read this post again, and read that, yes, all of these things ( HD being a better poster than before ) are correct.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 8:32 pm
by Sparko
99–this is what will confront us all, fists shaking at socialism or not. I hope all turns out well for your family. This thing is now at the highest reaches of the White House. So dismal was their understanding and so damaging their messaging that we all must now brace for impact.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 9:16 pm
by Deleted User 62
pdub wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:38 pm Despite the fact that HD has been in the past, from my opinion, borderline racist ( and yea, this is apt, and of course, subjective ) and sexist, he’s been much better lately to understanding another side ( though with disagreements ) and responding well to an onslaught of attacks with non attacks.

Now there might be some people who think that because I’m saying this, that I’m defending HD or siding with him, but then maybe they could just read this post again, and read that, yes, all of these things ( HD being a better poster than before ) are correct.
Guess I am the only one that noticed he tipped his hat toward letting people die, and indicating that he is ok with it.

My bad?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 9:49 pm
by seahawk
Mjl wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:35 am
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 1:10 am
Geezer wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 6:38 pm

It's not about you, it's about the people you could infect.
People who are worried about their health should stay home, not those who are healthy. It’s common sense.
Common sense is a term used by people either stupid or mentally lazy who can't justify things.

So everyone those people interact with also need to stay home. And everyone those people interact with. And everyone those people interact with.
I think you've hit on it exactly, MJL. If you're a 65 year old with a 30 year old daughter who gets a divorce and comes home and now has been called back to a job at a hotel, how do you stay appropriately--according to Psych--locked away. Or if you're 50 and have underlying conditions and are sheltering at a 2nd home so your 20 something kids can live in your regular home, what do you do when your 80+ mother has a leak that destroys her kitchen and you have to go home to be exposed to your kids, while helping repair her house? Lots of situations that aren't as simple as some want us to believe.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:45 am
by jhawks99
A few days before my kid's family got tested, they baked some cookies and shared them with their neighbors. She called them first thing yesterday to let them know. Their response? "Thanks for the murder cookies."

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:47 am
by jfish26
jhawks99 wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 12:02 pm Thanks guys. Let's all try to get along, ok?
For you, sure.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:16 am
by ousdahl
jhawks99 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 9:45 am A few days before my kid's family got tested, they baked some cookies and shared them with their neighbors. She called them first thing yesterday to let them know. Their response? "Thanks for the murder cookies."
oh jeez.

I finally ate some guac prepared by someone else the other day, after almost 2 months of otherwise only eating food prepared by myself. It's crazy how many people are unable, or just unwilling, to cook their own food.

Your kid's instance is even more of a bummer, cuz it was just a kind neighborly gesture.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:36 am
by seahawk
Terrible response to your family's kind gesture, 99. Some people are jerks.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:41 am
by jfish26
jhawks99 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 9:45 am A few days before my kid's family got tested, they baked some cookies and shared them with their neighbors. She called them first thing yesterday to let them know. Their response? "Thanks for the murder cookies."
I hope this was very tongue-in-cheek.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:44 am
by Deleted User 289
jhawks99 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 9:45 am A few days before my kid's family got tested, they baked some cookies and shared them with their neighbors. She called them first thing yesterday to let them know. Their response? "Thanks for the murder cookies."
My automatic response just might have been - "DAMN, they didn't work"!

I would like to say it's unbelievable how insensitive and ignorant people can be - but it's extremely believable.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 1:06 pm
by HouseDivided
ousdahl wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 11:16 am
jhawks99 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 9:45 am A few days before my kid's family got tested, they baked some cookies and shared them with their neighbors. She called them first thing yesterday to let them know. Their response? "Thanks for the murder cookies."
oh jeez.

I finally ate some guac prepared by someone else the other day, after almost 2 months of otherwise only eating food prepared by myself. It's crazy how many people are unable, or just unwilling, to cook their own food.

Your kid's instance is even more of a bummer, cuz it was just a kind neighborly gesture.
Wrong! It was obviously a malicious attempt to inconsiderately infect everyone around them. If everyone would just stay locked in their homes until, say, mid-November, this would all be over with.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 1:38 pm
by Deleted User 62
TDub wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:28 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:05 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 1:44 pm

That is essentially what I am saying. Somebody has to work and spend money to pay taxes to take care of those who can’t. I hate to keep using the term “common sense”, but it fits.
Hey, wouldn't it be cool if, somehow, there were tax dollars available for these scenarios....and not being used to buy a 3rd yacht or a 5th vacation home?
Thats not how capitalism works. Also, you should be glad because if it worked that way youd be out of a job. No titos margs by the pool
I am pretty confident that folks who make a few million+ will be able to struggle through if they were shorted a few hundred thousand

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 1:40 pm
by Deleted User 62
HouseDivided wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:06 pm
ousdahl wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 11:16 am
jhawks99 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 9:45 am A few days before my kid's family got tested, they baked some cookies and shared them with their neighbors. She called them first thing yesterday to let them know. Their response? "Thanks for the murder cookies."
oh jeez.

I finally ate some guac prepared by someone else the other day, after almost 2 months of otherwise only eating food prepared by myself. It's crazy how many people are unable, or just unwilling, to cook their own food.

Your kid's instance is even more of a bummer, cuz it was just a kind neighborly gesture.
Wrong! It was obviously a malicious attempt to inconsiderately infect everyone around them. If everyone would just stay locked in their homes until, say, mid-November, this would all be over with.
Just in time for Trump to refuse to leave office after a lame duck Senate sets fire to the constitution and Marshal Law is enacted?

Sounds fun