TDub wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:37 pm
how is that ad hominem? you ignored his point and provided sources and instead said he was slurping and gurgling.....its the exact definition of ad hominem.
but it doesn't matter because nuh uh...he started it!
I'm just saying, you can't pick and choose when to play the victim and then turn around and do the same shit.
oh..
and you have repeatedly called me various things....one of them specifically as the
leader of nazis no less.
I've never intentionally played the victim card, even when the rest of the bored at large is otherwise going full-on radical militant in the war thread.
what have I repeatedly called you?
Ignorant? yea I guess, but you've never disputed that or offered anything to counter the accusation otherwise.
I just think it's funny that Illy would rather Stan for CEOs and slob billionaire knobs, than have any actual class solidarity. He's got more in common with homeless people than he does with billionaires, but he doesn't even realize that, does he?
but, since illy brought it up tho, and since his post was quoted thus exposing me to it despite ignoring him, and since you keep dragging me into this illy beef despite me trying to avoid it, let's ask illy 5 questions of the day!
1. how many CEOs do you really know? How many is "many?" Feel free to be as exact or as estimated as you'd please
2. what exactly DO the CEOs do for the companies who employ you, anyway? Please be as specific as you're able to be. Can you think of an example of a time when all would have been lost, if not for the CEO being there? Or, for that matter, vice versa...can you think of any times the CEO just arbitrarily complicated things? Or times when the rank-and-file just took some initiative to get shit done without getting the CEO expressly involved, so as to avoid the complications of micromanagement and such?
3. if the majority of CEOs are not like Elon Musk, how so?
4. if the majority of CEOs are not golden spoon kids who were given companies by their parents, then...
a. how DO they become CEOs, then?
b. do you mean to say nepotism among corporate ranks is no problem at all?
c. and is it worth distinguishing an executive officer with an ownership role?
d. cuz I think execs often are also afforded some ownership in the company who employs them, right?
5. speaking of "golden spoon kids," did you mean to prompt some bigger discussion on generational wealth? Cuz, all CEO talk aside, do you realize the number one way Mericans become evil rich people is to be a "golden spoon kid" in the first place, who really did just have their wealth given to them by their parents, rather than ever actually doing a single day of work themselves. But I'm sure you knew that, right?
bonus question:
can you give any examples of a CEO whose compensation can be demonstrably justified by their productivity? e.g. if the CEO is making, say, 300x the income as the average worker at the same company, can you demonstrate the CEO really works 300x as hard?