Kansas Crimson

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:36 pm I don't get why you deflect and won't just admit that Self and KT knew exactly what was happening.

again, you're just making shit up to argue...NOBODY here has said they didn't know what was going on

Am I fucking quoting you? Or was I talking to ousdahl?

Once again, you're responding to questions not directed at you so that YOU can argue.

Illy, nobody does it better.

So is Dok gonna friggen declare or what? Just get it over with man.

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:43 pm Illy, nobody does it better.

No doubt, but JFC with people trying to argue with me while accusing me of "just trying to argue". It's ridiculous. He was responding to posts not even directed at him while finger wagging at me for trying to argue. It's played out.

I heard they've all cancelled our winning.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:01 pm

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:43 pm Illy, nobody does it better.

No doubt, but JFC with people trying to argue with me while accusing me of "just trying to argue". It's ridiculous. He was responding to posts not even directed at him while finger wagging at me for trying to argue. It's played out.

Yeah, but at least you took the higher road....

Beverly to Miami.

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:09 pm

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:01 pm

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:43 pm Illy, nobody does it better.

No doubt, but JFC with people trying to argue with me while accusing me of "just trying to argue". It's ridiculous. He was responding to posts not even directed at him while finger wagging at me for trying to argue. It's played out.

Yeah, but at least you took the higher road....

For sure. Glad you noticed!

Other coaches are telling these last few highly touted recruits they will end up like DeSousa if they sign with KU. This is getting ugly. No Grimes, DeSousa, DOK, maybe Dotson...Wow. And nobody coming in worthy of starting...

They will end up like SdS or Grimes. Either one of the scenarios is the kiss of death. Kids are wanting to stay away from KU like the plague.

why would a recruit fear ending up like SDS? unless he/his camp are caught up in dirty money themselves.

and Grimes? yeah, I'm sure recruits would be scared off by the idea of coming in and getting 27 minutes a game their freshman year.

Believe what you want but Grimes went from a top 10 lotto pick to potentially undrafted. Where we as fans want to point the blame that resonates with kids.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:38 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:36 pm I don't get why you deflect and won't just admit that Self and KT knew exactly what was happening.

again, you're just making shit up to argue...NOBODY here has said they didn't know what was going on

Am I fucking quoting you? Or was I talking to ousdahl?

Once again, you're responding to questions not directed at you so that YOU can argue.

if you wanna have a private conversation, there are these things called “private messages”

otherwise, don’t get pissy when you get called out for your bs

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:36 pm Believe what you want but Grimes went from a top 10 lotto pick to potentially undrafted. Where we as fans want to point the blame that resonates with kids.

I like our trend of turning guys ranked outside the top 40 or so into guys who make some NBA money. Mason. Graham. Twins. Etc.

I do not like our trend of taking guys who are looked at as lotto/high lotto coming into the year and turning them into worse picks.....part of it is just purely being overrated coming out of high school, so it is unavoidable. But we've had a couple really highly rated guys who flopped once they got to KU. Cliff Alexander was supposed to be a high lotto pick. Coming to KU was the wrong choice for him..had he gone to Illinois he easily would have averaged 15+/8+ and had enough athletic plays/dunks to maintain a lotto pick position.....he'd have still flopped in the NBA, because he wasn't that good/was overrated coming out of HS where BBIQ doesn't matter as much and strong physical guys can dominate smaller players, but at least he'd have gotten a decent payday....Grimes isn't quite as bad. I'm not sure he killed his draft position quite as bad as Cliff. If Grimes impresses at the combine and workouts then he could probably overcome the bad season and have a team take him 1st round...diallo went from lotto or mid 1st to late 2nd. Thankfully he's really adjusted and developed in his few years and he appears to be on track for a long career....

Then we've got guys like embiid who went from unknown to high lotto (and now he is a top 5-10 player in the league)...I don't know how much credit we deserve for Embiid, but I don't think we deserve all the blame for the guys listed above either, so you take the good with the bad.

I don't think we need to be in a panic mode about recruiting. I think a reasonable outcome of this FBI drama is that we'd have a lull for a year or 2. We are seeing the impact this year for the first time.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:04 pm if you wanna have a private conversation, there are these things called “private messages”

otherwise, don’t get pissy when you get called out for your bs

LOL @ you still trying to argue

lol at you being an idiot

tell me, what exactly was i arguing?

What are people’s thoughts on Elijah Elliott?

Didn't know anything about him until I went to a game this year and saw his name on the roster. Think he had a boot on once I saw him in pregame warmups.

Don't know anything about him other than he picked to walkon at KU over going to Nebraska or Wake.

Maybe could be a player come Junior and Senior seasons. A more athletic Teahan..?

He may be thrust into some action next season.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:01 am He may be thrust into some action next season.

He's exactly the type of player many want. These lower ranked 4 year guys....

Wonder if they'll change their tune when we struggle without the elite talent.....the first few years of these 4 year guys everyone wants might be rough....hopefully if that's the route we go with roster composition we can stagger the classes well enough to stay at the top.

There seems to be some belief that ALL 4 year guys turn into Frank and Devonte....but the truth is that most don't. As much as so many hated Jamari, I'm surprised people want a team full of Jamari's.