Kansas Crimson

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:24 am Isn’t the whole defund the police thing rooted in allocating that budget toward more constructive social programs?

Invest in communities, rather than criminalizing them

That was the idea but it turned into a political shitstorm. What we should do is defund the politicians and do that lol

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:09 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:24 am Isn’t the whole defund the police thing rooted in allocating that budget toward more constructive social programs?

Invest in communities, rather than criminalizing them

That was the idea but it turned into a political shitstorm. What we should do is defund the politicians and do that lol

“So does defunding police crime. People just want to escape failed liberal policies in general”

speaking of politicization

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:31 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:29 am Back to covid. If our government genuinely cared about our citizens then the borders would become a top priority. We have a continual wave of illegal immigrants coming in, many of which have covid and are trying to get Healthcare for it. Not to mention the majority of illegal drugs, firearms, and human trafficking all come across our southern border

but some, you assume, are good people.

Immigrants? I would assume most are good people. Same goes for all you fucks on here lol. Even tho we disagree on things I still think you mean well

Oh good, now it’s most.

Cuz for a second there you made it sound like they were all a bunch of drug dealers and traffickers.

But heck, if they figured out a way to obtain good healthcare in this country, that puts them ahead of a lot of born-and-raised Mericans, maybe they’re onto something.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:41 pm Oh good, now it’s most.

Cuz for a second there you made it sound like they were all a bunch of drug dealers and traffickers.

But heck, if they figured out a way to obtain good healthcare in this country, that puts them ahead of a lot of born-and-raised Mericans, maybe they’re onto something.

The drugs weapons and human trafficking does happen at the southern border. Thats a fact. But thats a back and forth thing. Not the immigrants trying to come here and live. Most of them are good people trying to survive

But its extra justification for why we need to secure our border. All of you that think vaccines and vaccine id cards are necessary should probably agree that now isn't the best time for welcoming strangers into our home

I would be all for no borders in a world with unlimited space and resources. But we live in a finite world. With finite resources. There are nearly 8 billion people on the planet and they can't all come to the US

oh so now Randy hates capitalism too.

Welcome aboard, comrade!

We are facing an environmental crisis stemming from a population crisis. Our current way of life is unsustainable with such a large population. Covid and vaccines is nearly irrelevant compared to that

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:09 pm oh so now Randy hates capitalism too.

Welcome aboard, comrade!

Literally never said that. I can't figure out how you continually read my comments and twist them into something else lol

Capitalism isn't perfect. I'll give you that. Has its own issues. I would tweak it for sure. But does a better system exist?

It was admittedly a non-sequitur of sorts, but mostly just a reference to the fact you acknowledge resources are finite.

Capitalism does not acknowledge that.

And as to whether a better system exists - it certainly does, but only if we wanted it to.

And you admit an environmental crisis, and unsustainability.

Again, capitalism does not.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:22 pm And as to whether a better system exists - it certainly does, but only if we wanted it to.

Sounds like it doesn't exist. We'd have to invent it.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:23 pm And you admit an environmental crisis, and unsustainability.

Again, capitalism does not.

It isn't just capitalist countries contributing to the environmental crisis fwiw. We do just about as much as any country to help fix the environmental crisis and we are capitalist (mostly).

Most of the environmental crisis is created by a handful of corporations. By a margin.

“Yeah sure we destroyed the planet, but for a beautiful moment in time, we created a lot of wealth for shareholders.”

If they do do anything to address the environmental crisis, it’s usually just some token bullshit that achieves little more than good PR

And go figure they lecture us average joes about how it’s our own personal responsibility to not use straws.

In the context of covid, and not necessarily directly related to the capitalism discussion, do other countries have such issues with anti-vaxxers and misinformation?

Again in some bigger context, and pols boredy, aren’t other countries pretty put off by our political system, and the endless campaigning and unlimited dark money and outrage media personalities and shit?

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:25 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:23 pm And you admit an environmental crisis, and unsustainability.

Again, capitalism does not.

It isn't just capitalist countries contributing to the environmental crisis fwiw. We do just about as much as any country to help fix the environmental crisis and we are capitalist (mostly).

your first statement is such a misleading bs take

true, that nearly every country is contributing to environmental issues

but the magnitude of that contribution skews heavily towards a few capitalist countries

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:34 pm In the context of covid, and not necessarily directly related to the capitalism discussion, do other countries have such issues with anti-vaxxers and misinformation?

Again in some bigger context, and pols boredy, aren’t other countries pretty put off by our political system, and the endless campaigning and unlimited dark money and outrage media personalities and shit?

i think australia has similar, if not worse issues with anti-science stances

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:34 pm In the context of covid, and not necessarily directly related to the capitalism discussion, do other countries have such issues with anti-vaxxers and misinformation?

Again in some bigger context, and pols boredy, aren’t other countries pretty put off by our political system, and the endless campaigning and unlimited dark money and outrage media personalities and shit?

You think Russia and China don't have issues with misinformation? LOL

What other countries specifically are put off by us? Outside of a handful of countries we have a vastly superior country in almost all aspects of life to the rest of the world.

We are so spoiled that some of us think we've got it bad. Take a look at the middle east, south america, russia, china, etc.