Kansas Crimson

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 8:31 am Is that law made to essentially ban the morning after pill?

Per a google search:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/19/politics ... index.html

"HB 4327 defines "fertilization" as "the fusion of a human spermatozoon with a human ovum." Though the bill considers a pregnancy to begin at fertilization, and not implantation, the bill does not restrict the use of forms of contraception that prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in a uterus. According to the bill, abortion "does not include the use, prescription, administration, procuring, or selling of Plan B, morning-after pills, or any other type of contraception or emergency contraception.""

Per a google search:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/19/politics ... index.html

"HB 4327 defines "fertilization" as "the fusion of a human spermatozoon with a human ovum." Though the bill considers a pregnancy to begin at fertilization, and not implantation, the bill does not restrict the use of forms of contraception that prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in a uterus. According to the bill, abortion "does not include the use, prescription, administration, procuring, or selling of Plan B, morning-after pills, or any other type of contraception or emergency contraception.""

So what exactly is the law preventing?

Why would anyone get an abortion before they're even pregnant?

Either way, more dumb/bad stuff the government shouldn't be involved in.

You do not have a right to a body that is inside your body. Hmmm.

Don’t get mad, vote!

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:22 am You do not have a right to a body that is inside your body. Hmmm.

If any unborn fetus is covered under the US Constitution prior to becoming a US citizen then all pregnant women in the world should be allowed to come to the US since any baby born on US soil is a US citizen.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:14 pm https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ ... at-to-know

We had an ectopic pregnancy 12+ years ago. We went from "we're going to tell our families this weekend" to "I think something is wrong" to "your wife is going in for emergency surgery" in a matter of hours. I shudder to think what would have happened if my wife was unable to get the prompt care that she required now that Nebraska is one of the states that has this vague exception language.

This fucking country is a celebration of ignorance and selfishness.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:06 pm

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:22 am You do not have a right to a body that is inside your body. Hmmm.

If any unborn fetus is covered under the US Constitution prior to becoming a US citizen then all pregnant women in the world should be allowed to come to the US since any baby born on US soil is a US citizen.

Truth

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:12 pm This fucking country is a celebration of ignorance and selfishness.

Truer words have never been spoken! The. Greatest. Of ignorance and selfishness

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:12 pm

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:14 pm https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ ... at-to-know

We had an ectopic pregnancy 12+ years ago. We went from "we're going to tell our families this weekend" to "I think something is wrong" to "your wife is going in for emergency surgery" in a matter of hours. I shudder to think what would have happened if my wife was unable to get the prompt care that she required now that Nebraska is one of the states that has this vague exception language.

This fucking country is a celebration of ignorance and selfishness.

Thankfully things like emergency surgery for ectopic pregnancy is not banned in any state since that procedure is not considered an abortion.

4. How will this affect doctors’ ability to provide care?

In many states that ban abortions, obstetricians, gynecologists, emergency room doctors, and any type of physician that takes care of pregnant people will likely be targeted by law and could face criminal charges if they provide abortion services.

This will have a severe effect on reproductive health care, Dr. Nikki Zite, an OB-GYN in Knoxville, Tenn., recently told KHN. Tennessee’s trigger law says abortions are permissible only to prevent a death or “to prevent serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman.”

“But exactly how much risk there needs to be is not clear,” Zite said. “Different physicians practicing at different institutions will have different interpretations of that law.”

There are also gray areas the law doesn’t address. In some very early pregnancies, the fertilized egg lodges outside the uterus — most commonly in a fallopian tube — a potentially life-threatening situation called an ectopic pregnancy. If that type of pregnancy proceeds, the woman can bleed to death.

Patients who have a miscarriage also sometimes need to take abortion medication or have dilation and curettage surgery — known as a D&C — to remove tissue that lingers inside the uterus.

“The challenge is that the treatment for an abortion and the treatment for a miscarriage are exactly the same,” Dr. Sarah Prager recently told KHN. Prager is a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Washington in Seattle and an expert on early pregnancy loss.

Doctors may hesitate to perform D&Cs to treat miscarriages for fear someone will accuse them of performing a covert abortion.

“Physicians shouldn’t be fearful for being criminalized for taking care of patients,” said Zite. “I think there’s going to be a myriad of unintended consequences. I think that people will lose their lives. I also think there will be people in horrible situations, like those that strongly desire to be pregnant but have a complication of the pregnancy, that will not be able to make decisions on how that pregnancy ends, and that will be a different kind of devastation.”

https://khn.org/news/article/five-thing ... -wade/amp/

I would love to see this in the SCOTUS

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pregnant ... 168462b752

zsn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:44 pm I would love to see this in the SCOTUS

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pregnant ... 168462b752

Love it. That would be awesome.

John Lewis would be proud

good trouble