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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 1:42 pm
by DCHawk1
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:40 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:06 pm
ousdahl wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 11:16 am

oh jeez.

I finally ate some guac prepared by someone else the other day, after almost 2 months of otherwise only eating food prepared by myself. It's crazy how many people are unable, or just unwilling, to cook their own food.

Your kid's instance is even more of a bummer, cuz it was just a kind neighborly gesture.
Wrong! It was obviously a malicious attempt to inconsiderately infect everyone around them. If everyone would just stay locked in their homes until, say, mid-November, this would all be over with.
Just in time for Trump to refuse to leave office after a lame duck Senate sets fire to the constitution and Marshal Law is enacted?

Sounds fun
lulz

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 1:43 pm
by TDub
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:38 pm
TDub wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:28 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:05 pm

Hey, wouldn't it be cool if, somehow, there were tax dollars available for these scenarios....and not being used to buy a 3rd yacht or a 5th vacation home?
Thats not how capitalism works. Also, you should be glad because if it worked that way youd be out of a job. No titos margs by the pool
I am pretty confident that folks who make a few million+ will be able to struggle through if they were shorted a few hundred thousand
I didnt say they wouldnt be able to make it. I said thats not how it works.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 1:50 pm
by HouseDivided
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:40 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:06 pm
ousdahl wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 11:16 am

oh jeez.

I finally ate some guac prepared by someone else the other day, after almost 2 months of otherwise only eating food prepared by myself. It's crazy how many people are unable, or just unwilling, to cook their own food.

Your kid's instance is even more of a bummer, cuz it was just a kind neighborly gesture.
Wrong! It was obviously a malicious attempt to inconsiderately infect everyone around them. If everyone would just stay locked in their homes until, say, mid-November, this would all be over with.
Just in time for Trump to refuse to leave office after a lame duck Senate sets fire to the constitution and Marshal Law is enacted?

Sounds fun
I don’t know what Marshal Law is, but martial law is a distinct possibility.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:06 pm
by jhawks99
Grandma wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 11:44 am
jhawks99 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 9:45 am A few days before my kid's family got tested, they baked some cookies and shared them with their neighbors. She called them first thing yesterday to let them know. Their response? "Thanks for the murder cookies."
My automatic response just might have been - "DAMN, they didn't work"!

I would like to say it's unbelievable how insensitive and ignorant people can be - but it's extremely believable.
They are good friends. The neighbors were joking.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:07 pm
by jhawks99
jfish26 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 11:41 am
jhawks99 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 9:45 am A few days before my kid's family got tested, they baked some cookies and shared them with their neighbors. She called them first thing yesterday to let them know. Their response? "Thanks for the murder cookies."
I hope this was very tongue-in-cheek.
It was. Everyone is still friends.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:49 pm
by Deleted User 289
jhawks99 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:06 pm
Grandma wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 11:44 am
jhawks99 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 9:45 am A few days before my kid's family got tested, they baked some cookies and shared them with their neighbors. She called them first thing yesterday to let them know. Their response? "Thanks for the murder cookies."
My automatic response just might have been - "DAMN, they didn't work"!

I would like to say it's unbelievable how insensitive and ignorant people can be - but it's extremely believable.
They are good friends. The neighbors were joking.
Good to know they were joking - and not being insensitive!
Joking or not - I still think I might have said that.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:13 pm
by seahawk
We need a "sarcasm" emoji. :)

Glad they were joking.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:54 pm
by Deleted User 62
HouseDivided wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:50 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:40 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:06 pm

Wrong! It was obviously a malicious attempt to inconsiderately infect everyone around them. If everyone would just stay locked in their homes until, say, mid-November, this would all be over with.
Just in time for Trump to refuse to leave office after a lame duck Senate sets fire to the constitution and Marshal Law is enacted?

Sounds fun
I don’t know what Marshal Law is, but martial law is a distinct possibility.
Auto correct fail

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 4:52 pm
by HouseDivided
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 3:54 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:50 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:40 pm

Just in time for Trump to refuse to leave office after a lame duck Senate sets fire to the constitution and Marshal Law is enacted?

Sounds fun
I don’t know what Marshal Law is, but martial law is a distinct possibility.
Auto correct fail
Happens to the best of us.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 8:15 pm
by seahawk
Interesting studies on why Florida didn't have the levels of virus as projected. In short, everyone stayed home before they were told to. They don't mention it in the article, but the fact that it was Spring Break time probably helped, as people were used to avoiding restaurants and going to the grocery at non-tourist times, and trying to stay out of Spring Break traffic.

Also might indicate what will happen if as some want, things are opened too soon and the deaths and infections escalate--people may just stay home.


Why didn’t Florida see an explosion of cases?

To answer that question, Tampa Bay Times reporters reviewed the methodology behind several prominent models and studied data tracing the virus’ spread into every corner of the state.

Then the Times analyzed cell phone tracking data collected by three companies that paints a vivid picture of how Floridians reacted during the outbreak’s early days. Fifteen experts reviewed the work and shared their observations.

The analysis indicates that while Florida’s politicians debated beach closings and stay-at-home orders, residents took matters into their own hands.

By the time each county shut down, there had been large reductions in activity, the cell phone data shows. People in the worst-hit counties were overwhelmingly staying home weeks before DeSantis’ order went out — and even before the much-earlier orders issued by local governments.


https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/20 ... ium=social

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:06 pm
by Deleted User 310
seahawk wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 8:15 pm Interesting studies on why Florida didn't have the levels of virus as projected. In short, everyone stayed home before they were told to. They don't mention it in the article, but the fact that it was Spring Break time probably helped, as people were used to avoiding restaurants and going to the grocery at non-tourist times, and trying to stay out of Spring Break traffic.

Also might indicate what will happen if as some want, things are opened too soon and the deaths and infections escalate--people may just stay home.


Why didn’t Florida see an explosion of cases?

To answer that question, Tampa Bay Times reporters reviewed the methodology behind several prominent models and studied data tracing the virus’ spread into every corner of the state.

Then the Times analyzed cell phone tracking data collected by three companies that paints a vivid picture of how Floridians reacted during the outbreak’s early days. Fifteen experts reviewed the work and shared their observations.

The analysis indicates that while Florida’s politicians debated beach closings and stay-at-home orders, residents took matters into their own hands.

By the time each county shut down, there had been large reductions in activity, the cell phone data shows. People in the worst-hit counties were overwhelmingly staying home weeks before DeSantis’ order went out — and even before the much-earlier orders issued by local governments.


https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/20 ... ium=social
I wonder if it is also a combination of factors such as the warmer weather/sun, an older population who may be less likely to have large gatherings or spend time in crowded bars, and then like you mentioned hiding out from the spring breakers.

My time living in Myrtle Beach would indicate its absolutely true that the "locals" in tourist spots hide out a bit during those times. Even as 20something we didnt mess around much partying during spring break...for me it wasn't necessarily to avoid the party because I was definitely in the party age, but because trouble was easier to find during those times either from cops or douche bags...spring break and "bike weeks" were dead spots for my partying in Myrtle. Too crazy for me.

...and I'm absolutely one of those people that will be staying home for multiple weeks maybe months after IL opens just to see how it goes for myself.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:34 pm
by Deleted User 62
DCHawk1 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:42 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:40 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:06 pm

Wrong! It was obviously a malicious attempt to inconsiderately infect everyone around them. If everyone would just stay locked in their homes until, say, mid-November, this would all be over with.
Just in time for Trump to refuse to leave office after a lame duck Senate sets fire to the constitution and Marshal Law is enacted?

Sounds fun
lulz
Mark it down.
The Covid protests were a dress rehersal

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:38 pm
by Deleted User 310
Good lord. That doesn't even make sense.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:41 pm
by Deleted User 310
Funny story: the IL protest at the capital (or 1 of them at least) had maybe 50 protestors and then maybe another 50 onlookers.....anyway, 1 of the onlookers (black dude, not that it really matters) backed his SUV up right to where they were protesting, opened all his doors/back hatch (had a loud stereo system in his vehicle with subs), and proceeded to blast rap music for a few minutes while he smoked a cigarette....gave me a good chuckle.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 7:13 am
by Deleted User 289
Our company is planning on having people return to work "in waves" on June 1st.
My question which I am debating if I should address with our HR personnel is..... If I see employees posting photos on social media in which they are in large (let's say 10 or more) groups of people (not simply just their family members) who none of which are wearing masks and they are not "social/physical distancing", do I have a responsibility to let HR know that this employee is at work and MAY be a risk factor to others?
I'm asking because I have seen this with two different employees and I don't know what my responsibility to the company is in that regard.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 7:23 am
by Deleted User 310
Grandma wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 7:13 am Our company is planning on having people return to work "in waves" on June 1st.
My question which I am debating if I should address with our HR personnel is..... If I see employees posting photos on social media in which they are in large (let's say 10 or more) groups of people (not simply just their family members) who none of which are wearing masks and they are not "social/physical distancing", do I have a responsibility to let HR know that this employee is at work and MAY be a risk factor to others?
I'm asking because I have seen this with two different employees and I don't know what my responsibility to the company is in that regard.
You should absolutely report it. And if they do nothing you should absolutely not return to work if you don't feel safe.

My company made one of our regional presidents go home for 14 days of unpaid leave (unless he wanted to use accumulated paid time off) because they found out he went to Florida during stay at home orders for a vacation. I was happy the did so, and have repeatedly told all employees if you aren't following stay at home orders and social distancing orders that you'll be sent home for 14 day quarantine if they find out. Unfortunately I'm sure some don't get caught.

Like you've said numerous times, some people are assholes. I am not envious of your spot. I'm assuming you work in a large building with hundreds-thousands of people. I work in a building with 10 people and even I am nervous/careful and taking precautions to protect myself and others in my office.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 7:34 am
by pdub
If I go into work and maintain at my best 6 feet distancing and still have to wear a mask all day, I’d prefer just to continue to work at home.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 7:38 am
by Deleted User 310
pdub wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 7:34 am If I go into work and maintain at my best 6 feet distancing and still have to wear a mask all day, I’d prefer just to continue to work at home.
We don't require them at cubicles or in offices, but want people wearing them when they walk in shared spaces like going to the bathroom or walking to the shared copy machine/printer/scanner or walking in and out of the building.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 7:45 am
by Deleted User 289
Illini - Our company has been adamant that if an employee is uncomfortable being in the first wave - no worries. They will in no way be punished nor ridiculed and it is 100% unacceptable for them to be "shamed" by ANY other employee/s in the company. I'm eager to get back to work but know full well that there are knuckleheads who simply don't give a shit about "guidelines" OUTSIDE of the office.

pdub - Our company has a huge dilemma in that this is something there is no real proven "blue print" for. I know they will error and error on the side of caution. I'm not sure how I feel about wearing a mask at work. Mandatory or not. I'm going to say of course I would prefer not to wear one but if they state it is mandatory for a period of time I'm certainly not going to fight it.
I think a legit issue I am going to have is once we return to work, it's going to be "summer time". The last place I want to be when the weather is nice is inside an office building for 9 hours a day. Especially after what I have been through.
My guess is some people milk this. As I mentioned, I have a co-worker who has publicly stated she is going to hit the bars as soon as they re-open but she's NOT going to come back to work in the first wave because she doesn't feel comfortable. Hmmmm. Will be interesting to see how our company handles those situations.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 7:50 am
by Deleted User 310
That's super frustrating and totally taking advantage of the situation (the going to bars but not going to work piece). Dumbasses.