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Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:45 pm
by PhDhawk
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:43 pm Been seeing Biden get some shit for campaigning on “we need leadership at the federal level to beat covid” but now coming out and saying it’s a state thing.
Both sides do it?

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:10 pm
by zsn
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:43 pm Been seeing Biden get some shit for campaigning on “we need leadership at the federal level to beat covid” but now coming out and saying it’s a state thing.
Actually it is and the only ones who don’t get it are the stupid ones. The Federal response has been effective to the extent possible. However many States have been actively thwarting those efforts. So now any solutions that can happen have to happen at the State level - lead, follow or get out of the way as they say.

It’s really not that complicated, unless one can’t or doesn’t want to comprehend

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:12 pm
by ousdahl
I kinda wonder what the pros and cons would be of the fed just big timing states that don’t play ball.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:22 pm
by JKLivin
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:43 pm Been seeing Biden get some shit for campaigning on “we need leadership at the federal level to beat covid” but now coming out and saying it’s a state thing.
Sharp as a tack, that man. You know . . . the thing.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:52 pm
by Mjl
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:12 pm I kinda wonder what the pros and cons would be of the fed just big timing states that don’t play ball.
That would be the opposite of Federal leadership. That would be the Trumpian approach.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:58 pm
by MICHHAWK
unity.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:27 pm
by ousdahl
Mjl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:52 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:12 pm I kinda wonder what the pros and cons would be of the fed just big timing states that don’t play ball.
That would be the opposite of Federal leadership. That would be the Trumpian approach.
And yet, that’s the thing!

Here we are once again trying to distinguish between the Trump approach and the Biden approach.


I guess the biggest difference may be, Trump gave us more stimulus money?

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:32 pm
by jfish26
zsn wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:10 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:43 pm Been seeing Biden get some shit for campaigning on “we need leadership at the federal level to beat covid” but now coming out and saying it’s a state thing.
Actually it is and the only ones who don’t get it are the stupid ones. The Federal response has been effective to the extent possible. However many States have been actively thwarting those efforts. So now any solutions that can happen have to happen at the State level - lead, follow or get out of the way as they say.

It’s really not that complicated, unless one can’t or doesn’t want to comprehend
Right. The core issue remains the same: the GOP wants to actively inhibit all governments from governing.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:08 pm
by Mjl
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:27 pm
Mjl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:52 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:12 pm I kinda wonder what the pros and cons would be of the fed just big timing states that don’t play ball.
That would be the opposite of Federal leadership. That would be the Trumpian approach.
And yet, that’s the thing!

Here we are once again trying to distinguish between the Trump approach and the Biden approach.


I guess the biggest difference may be, Trump gave us more stimulus money?
Huh? We're not. We're distinguishing between the Trump approach and the suggestion you gave, which has not been the Biden approach.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:14 pm
by ousdahl
What I’m saying is, the Trump approach IS pretty much the Biden approach now too.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:05 pm
by Mjl
Except it's not

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:16 pm
by ousdahl
Not about everything.

But in terms of the pandemic, and of Biden campaigning on strong leadership from the federal down, to its a state’s things now, is sort of a flip flop, and reminiscent of the previous administration

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:30 pm
by JKLivin
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:16 pm Not about everything.

But in terms of the pandemic, and of Biden campaigning on strong leadership from the federal down, to its a state’s things now, is sort of a flip flop, and reminiscent of the previous administration
I think Brandon, or whoever is telling him what to do these days - has figured out that blame distributed among fifty governors is better than all of it directed at one person. Politics 101.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:34 pm
by Mjl
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:16 pm Not about everything.

But in terms of the pandemic, and of Biden campaigning on strong leadership from the federal down, to its a state’s things now, is sort of a flip flop, and reminiscent of the previous administration
It's a state thing and it's a federal thing. You're acting like those are mutually exclusive.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:11 pm
by jhawks99
JKLivin wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:30 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:16 pm Not about everything.

But in terms of the pandemic, and of Biden campaigning on strong leadership from the federal down, to its a state’s things now, is sort of a flip flop, and reminiscent of the previous administration
I think Brandon, or whoever is telling him what to do these days - has figured out that blame distributed among fifty governors is better than all of it directed at one person. Politics 101.
Who is telling Brandon what to do? Probably Chavez.

#PsychHyperbole

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:28 pm
by Overlander
When is the next Biden campaign rally?

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:00 am
by zsn
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:16 pm Not about everything.

But in terms of the pandemic, and of Biden campaigning on strong leadership from the federal down, to its a state’s things now, is sort of a flip flop, and reminiscent of the previous administration
Actually it’s the opposite. See my previous response

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:14 pm
by sdoyel

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:21 pm
by Deleted User 863
Doesn't cost anything to sit in the basement. 😉

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:30 pm
by zsn
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:21 pm Doesn't cost anything to sit in the basement. 😉
So both sides don’t do it. Good to know