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Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:57 pm
by pdub
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:54 pm
You're not getting it. I'm done explaining it to you.
I'm not getting it, because it's a shitty analogy.
A more apt analogy would be if MIZZOU accused KU of academic fraud, KU investigated and found nothing, the NCAA investigated and found nothing, and two independent firms that MIZZOU hired also found nothing.
Then your analogy would be less shitty.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:06 pm
by jfish26
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:06 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:41 am
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:40 am
Why is trying to get someone ( someone who is a candidate to be VP ) to admit that Trump lost the 2020 election a WokeGotcha question?
It seems to me it is an extremely important question tied to our Democracy.
Because it is a thinly-veiled ploy to shift the focus to that issue - one that is emotionally-charged and volatile - and away from the subject matter at hand. They know Tampon Tim can't win on substance, so they're going to get people riled up about the 2020 election.
Did you watch the debate?
Walz talked plenty of substance. He addressed the questions directly. He provided examples.
( also your nickname for him just demeans you even more )
And the focus SHOULD be on that issue! Certainly enough for a 5 minute segment!
It's how our election process works - it's the core process of choosing our leader.
If I was interviewing a candidate to be a cartographer and I asked him if the world was flat and he wouldn't answer, well, we have an issue. Acknowledging the world being spherical isn't THE single most important thing of being a cartographer but it's pretty damn important.
This last part.
Except you KNOW the candidate knows the earth is spherical, and that he’s lying to you to curry favor from his boss who makes money off selling “WARNING: EDGE OF THE WORLD” signs.
Knowingly lying is SO much worse than merely being wrong.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:09 pm
by JKLivin
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:55 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:42 am
Sparko wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:39 am
Good post, Psych. We need to reduce the danger of a raging narcissist by denying him power and authority.
Not when the narcissist in question is the only fit candidate who is running. I refuse to accept the premise that we elect an unqualified dimwit neo-socialist just because the other candidate is an a-hole.
Why not? It seems to be exactly what you're doing. You're perfectly fine declaring Trump to be a "fit candidate" despite the fact that he is an ignorant racist, rapist, scumbag who is only supported by other world leaders who are also scumbags because you don't like the other candidate.
Sometimes you need an a-hole on your side to make sure things come out the right way. We've established that Giggles has nothing to offer. It's not difficult math.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:12 pm
by JKLivin
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:57 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:54 pm
You're not getting it. I'm done explaining it to you.
I'm not getting it, because it's a shitty analogy.
A more apt analogy would be if MIZZOU accused KU of academic fraud, KU investigated and found nothing, the NCAA investigated and found nothing, and two independent firms that MIZZOU hired also found nothing.
Then your analogy would be less shitty.
We've established that you don't get it/don't want to get it. I'm done with it.
You ought to know, based on our exchange regarding Jason Bean last year, that when I'm wrong, I admit it.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:22 pm
by pdub
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:12 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:57 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:54 pm
You're not getting it. I'm done explaining it to you.
I'm not getting it, because it's a shitty analogy.
A more apt analogy would be if MIZZOU accused KU of academic fraud, KU investigated and found nothing, the NCAA investigated and found nothing, and two independent firms that MIZZOU hired also found nothing.
Then your analogy would be less shitty.
We've established that you don't get it/don't want to get it. I'm done with it.
You ought to know, based on our exchange regarding Jason Bean last year, that when I'm wrong, I admit it.
Explain the analogy then.
UNC investigated, yes, but they found wrongdoing.
Faculty was punished/fired. Reforms were made.
"It was a wrongdoing that could have and should have been stopped much earlier," said Chancellor Carol Folt.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:22 pm
by pdub
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:06 pm
"Acknowledging the world being spherical isn't THE single most important thing of being a cartographer but it's pretty damn important."
This last part.
Except you KNOW the candidate knows the earth is spherical, and that he’s lying to you to curry favor from his boss who makes money off selling “WARNING: EDGE OF THE WORLD” signs.
Knowingly lying is SO much worse than merely being wrong.
True.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:39 pm
by jfish26
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:22 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:06 pm
"Acknowledging the world being spherical isn't THE single most important thing of being a cartographer but it's pretty damn important."
This last part.
Except you KNOW the candidate knows the earth is spherical, and that he’s lying to you to curry favor from his boss who makes money off selling “WARNING: EDGE OF THE WORLD” signs.
Knowingly lying is SO much worse than merely being wrong.
True.
And, Christ almighty, throwing a hissy fit over NOT being allowed to lie should be entirely disqualifying.
We knew Vance lied about brown people in Springfield for personal gain.
We knew that
he knew he was lying about brown people in Springfield all along. We knew that he even admitted to lying about brown people in Springfield for personal gain. We knew that he has such disdain for our laws that he declared himself the arbiter of what degree of "legal" the brown people in Springfield are or are not.
What we did not know, until last night, is that he feels
entitled to lie for personal gain. That he is
offended by the mere possibility of being gently nudged in the direction of the truth.
He is a snowflake's snowflake.
And while he might have the cognitive ability to be a President, he doesn't have the character or the temperament to be trusted to watch your cactus over a long weekend.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:01 pm
by JKLivin
The funny part about all of this is that, if you guys had any confidence in your candidate, you’d be full of mirth and merriment.
Your oUtRAgE belies a sense that we’re headed back to better times for Americans rather than the Potemkin village Brandon and Giggles erected over the last 3 1/2 years and that you won’t get away with stealing this election.
Get on board, get out of the way, or get run over. It’s all the same to me.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:02 pm
by twocoach
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:09 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:55 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:42 am
Not when the narcissist in question is the only fit candidate who is running. I refuse to accept the premise that we elect an unqualified dimwit neo-socialist just because the other candidate is an a-hole.
Why not? It seems to be exactly what you're doing. You're perfectly fine declaring Trump to be a "fit candidate" despite the fact that he is an ignorant racist, rapist, scumbag who is only supported by other world leaders who are also scumbags because you don't like the other candidate.
Sometimes you need an a-hole on your side to make sure things come out the right way. We've established that Giggles has nothing to offer. It's not difficult math.
That you bundle all of Trump's issues up into just "being a necessary a-hole" tells me a lot about you so thank you that glimpse into what we're really dealing with when we interact with you.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:10 pm
by randylahey
Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:45 pm
Here
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:11 pm
by randylahey
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:01 pm
The funny part about all of this is that, if you guys had any confidence in your candidate, you’d be full of mirth and merriment.
Your oUtRAgE belies a sense that we’re headed back to better times for Americans rather than the Potemkin village Brandon and Giggles erected over the last 3 1/2 years and that you won’t get away with stealing this election.
Get on board, get out of the way, or get run over. It’s all the same to me.
We all know trump/vance are going to win. Let's just fast forward and skip all the bullshit. The democrats fucked up too bad with the economy and the illegals. Nobody wants to continue this
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:13 pm
by randylahey
A lot of us are worried about what kind of bullshit might occur in the next month or so tho however. In the democrats last ditch effort to retain power. I mean we all remember how 2020 went down
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:15 pm
by JKLivin
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:02 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:09 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:55 pm
Why not? It seems to be exactly what you're doing. You're perfectly fine declaring Trump to be a "fit candidate" despite the fact that he is an ignorant racist, rapist, scumbag who is only supported by other world leaders who are also scumbags because you don't like the other candidate.
Sometimes you need an a-hole on your side to make sure things come out the right way. We've established that Giggles has nothing to offer. It's not difficult math.
That you bundle all of Trump's issues up into just "being a necessary a-hole" tells me a lot about you so thank you that glimpse into what we're really dealing with when we interact with you.
I don’t really care much about how the sausage is made. I just want it to taste good and be on my plate.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:16 pm
by JKLivin
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:13 pm
A lot of us are worried about what kind of bullshit might occur in the next month or so tho however. In the democrats last ditch effort to retain power. I mean we all remember how 2020 went down
It’s why they keep trying to kill him. I’m also waiting for the Internet to go down nationwide - oh, right about November 5th.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:21 pm
by pdub
I don't know why I even try to come to this shit show of a polibored.
Fucking morans/lunatics.
Just keep it here.
And I reserve the right on/around election day to boot you both if you're continuing this bullshit.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:22 pm
by JKLivin
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:21 pm
I reserve the right on/around election day to boot you both if you're continuing this bullshit.
I would expect no less.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:23 pm
by jfish26
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:21 pm
I don't know why I even try to come to this shit show of a polibored.
Fucking morans/lunatics.
Just keep it here.
And I reserve the right on/around election day to boot you both if you're continuing this bullshit.
Just create a Trump fanfic sub-bored.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:28 pm
by twocoach
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:16 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:13 pm
A lot of us are worried about what kind of bullshit might occur in the next month or so tho however. In the democrats last ditch effort to retain power. I mean we all remember how 2020 went down
It’s why they keep trying to kill him. I’m also waiting for the Internet to go down nationwide - oh, right about November 5th.
Ah, the infamous "they" despite the actual facts about who "they" have been. And JFC, "the internet to go down nationwide"? Do you not understand how the internet works?
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:33 pm
by jfish26
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:28 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:16 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:13 pm
A lot of us are worried about what kind of bullshit might occur in the next month or so tho however. In the democrats last ditch effort to retain power. I mean we all remember how 2020 went down
It’s why they keep trying to kill him. I’m also waiting for the Internet to go down nationwide - oh, right about November 5th.
Ah, the infamous "they" despite the actual facts about who "they" have been. And JFC, "the internet to go down nationwide"? Do you not understand how the internet works?
It’s also revisionist history in the extreme to pre-suppose that bad actors would be D-aligned.
Re: OFFICIAL DEBATE DRINKING THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:35 pm
by MICHHAWK
it doesn't matter who wins. we are the loser either way.