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Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:20 am
by MICHHAWK
The youngster is a walk-on. I have never heard anyone say they desire a roster full of walk-ons.
If he can play he can play.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:22 am
by PhDhawk
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:16 am
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:01 am
He may be thrust into some action next season.
He's exactly the type of player many want. These lower ranked 4 year guys....
Wonder if they'll change their tune when we struggle without the elite talent.....the first few years of these 4 year guys everyone wants might be rough....hopefully if that's the route we go with roster composition we can stagger the classes well enough to stay at the top.
There seems to be some belief that ALL 4 year guys turn into Frank and Devonte....but the truth is that most don't. As much as so many hated Jamari, I'm surprised people want a team full of Jamari's.
No he's not. He's an unranked invited walk on.
The 4 year players everyone wants are Agbaji, Braun, and McBride, or multi-year guys like McCormack. Nobody I know is clamoring for more Luinstras and Ginger Teahans.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:25 am
by NewtonHawk11
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:16 am
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:01 am
He may be thrust into some action next season.
He's exactly the type of player many want. These lower ranked 4 year guys....
Wonder if they'll change their tune when we struggle without the elite talent.....the first few years of these 4 year guys everyone wants might be rough....hopefully if that's the route we go with roster composition we can stagger the classes well enough to stay at the top.
There seems to be some belief that ALL 4 year guys turn into Frank and Devonte....but the truth is that most don't. As much as so many hated Jamari, I'm surprised people want a team full of Jamari's.
If Jamari developed any sort of a shot, he'd be in the league. If Diallo can make it, Jamari could have made it with any sort of offensive game.
I still like the Jamaris, Relefords, Lucas', Perrys and Svis of the world.
It will be tough to get a consistent 4 years out of those guys and the first few years would be a struggle, but I'm also of the belief that you can't go full Duke and Kentucky and just go heavy on Freshman and Sophomores.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:25 am
by Deleted User 75
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:20 am
The youngster is a walk-on. I have never heard anyone say they desire a roster full of walk-ons.
If he can play he can play.
He's a walk on by choice though. Would have gotten scholarships to Nebraska or Wake iirc.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:26 am
by Deleted User 75
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:25 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:16 am
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:01 am
He may be thrust into some action next season.
He's exactly the type of player many want. These lower ranked 4 year guys....
Wonder if they'll change their tune when we struggle without the elite talent.....the first few years of these 4 year guys everyone wants might be rough....hopefully if that's the route we go with roster composition we can stagger the classes well enough to stay at the top.
There seems to be some belief that ALL 4 year guys turn into Frank and Devonte....but the truth is that most don't. As much as so many hated Jamari, I'm surprised people want a team full of Jamari's.
If Jamari developed any sort of a shot, he'd be in the league. If Diallo can make it, Jamari could have made it with any sort of offensive game.
I still like the Jamaris, Relefords, Lucas', Perrys and Svis of the world.
It will be tough to get a consistent 4 years out of those guys and the first few years would be a struggle, but I'm also of the belief that you can't go full Duke and Kentucky and just go heavy on Freshman and Sophomores.
Holy cow. I love Jamari, but he's nothing like Diallo.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:28 am
by MICHHAWK
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:25 am
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:20 am
The youngster is a walk-on. I have never heard anyone say they desire a roster full of walk-ons.
If he can play he can play.
He's a walk on by choice though. Would have gotten scholarships to Nebraska or Wake iirc.
Depending on how things shake out in the next few months, he may get himself a scholarship for next year.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:31 am
by PhDhawk
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:25 am
I still like the Jamaris, Relefords, Lucas', Perrys and Svis of the world.
as a recruit, Elliot isn't anywhere near those guys.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:33 am
by noosh
If this cat gets significant PT next year it's reasonable to assume our Tourney streak is in jeopardy
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:34 am
by Deleted User 89
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:16 am
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:01 am
He may be thrust into some action next season.
He's exactly the type of player many want. These lower ranked 4 year guys....
Wonder if they'll change their tune when we struggle without the elite talent.....the first few years of these 4 year guys everyone wants might be rough....hopefully if that's the route we go with roster composition we can stagger the classes well enough to stay at the top.
There seems to be some belief that ALL 4 year guys turn into Frank and Devonte....but the truth is that most don't. As much as so many hated Jamari, I'm surprised people want a team full of Jamari's.
you and you're narratives...go root for uk, fanboy
who here said they wanted ALL 4-year guys?
i think most prefer the way Self has, and will likely continue to, built rosters...a base of multi-year players with a few potential 1-and-dones mixed in
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:36 am
by NewtonHawk11
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:31 am
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:25 am
I still like the Jamaris, Relefords, Lucas', Perrys and Svis of the world.
as a recruit, Elliot isn't anywhere near those guys.
Yeah see, I don't know him from Adam. But just in general, I like those type of players.
Not to say I hate the Josh Jackson's and Wiggins, but I seem to gravitate more towards the 3-4 year guys.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:56 am
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:16 am
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:01 am
He may be thrust into some action next season.
He's exactly the type of player many want. These lower ranked 4 year guys....
Wonder if they'll change their tune when we struggle without the elite talent.....the first few years of these 4 year guys everyone wants might be rough....hopefully if that's the route we go with roster composition we can stagger the classes well enough to stay at the top.
There seems to be some belief that ALL 4 year guys turn into Frank and Devonte....but the truth is that most don't. As much as so many hated Jamari, I'm surprised people want a team full of Jamari's.
I want more multi-year scholaship guys ranked in the 25-100 range. Not more Traylors (ranked 141 on rivals) or walk-ons.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:04 pm
by PhDhawk
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:36 am
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:31 am
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:25 am
I still like the Jamaris, Relefords, Lucas', Perrys and Svis of the world.
as a recruit, Elliot isn't anywhere near those guys.
Yeah see, I don't know him from Adam. But just in general, I like those type of players.
Not to say I hate the Josh Jackson's and Wiggins, but I seem to gravitate more towards the 3-4 year guys.
well, Elliot isn't one of those types of players. He wasn't even ranked and he's not on scholarship. Jamari was the lowest ranked of those guys, and he was a 3* ranked about 130 or so.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:27 pm
by Lonestarjayhawk
Kentucky, UNC are both having down recruiting years. UNC chasing a 3-star kid now. It isn't just Kansas or Adidas.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:29 pm
by Lonestarjayhawk
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:04 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:36 am
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:31 am
as a recruit, Elliot isn't anywhere near those guys.
Yeah see, I don't know him from Adam. But just in general, I like those type of players.
Not to say I hate the Josh Jackson's and Wiggins, but I seem to gravitate more towards the 3-4 year guys.
well, Elliot isn't one of those types of players. He wasn't even ranked and he's not on scholarship. Jamari was the lowest ranked of those guys, and he was a 3* ranked about 130 or so.
Jamari was bait for Daniels, who went to UConn instead.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:32 pm
by PhDhawk
I think Elliott played well during the summer camp before last season. Of course, Charlie Moore also played well there.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:44 pm
by DCHawk1
I remember when Jamari dunked and got his elbow stuck in the rim.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:26 pm
by NewtonHawk11
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:44 pm
I remember when Jamari dunked and got his elbow stuck in the rim.
Insane play. Was that the same year when he dove on the ball head on with the Texas kid down in Austin too?
Jamari just brought heart and hard work to those teams.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:11 pm
by twocoach
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:26 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:44 pm
I remember when Jamari dunked and got his elbow stuck in the rim.
Insane play. Was that the same year when he dove on the ball head on with the Texas kid down in Austin too?
Jamari just brought heart and hard work to those teams.
So did Frank and Devonte. Only they also brought skill and scoring as well. Let's fish in those waters for "heart and hustle" guys.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:18 pm
by PhDhawk
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:11 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:26 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:44 pm
I remember when Jamari dunked and got his elbow stuck in the rim.
Insane play. Was that the same year when he dove on the ball head on with the Texas kid down in Austin too?
Jamari just brought heart and hard work to those teams.
So did Frank and Devonte. Only they also brought skill and scoring as well. Let's fish in those waters for "heart and hustle" guys.
Jamari was ranked 136 in his class by 247
Mason was ranked 118 in his class by 247
The were swimming in the same waters.
Now, if you want to argue that Self and Co. are making a shit load of money to be able to identify the differences and their player development should maximize player potential. I'm with you.
Re: Recruiting 2019
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:23 pm
by MICHHAWK
HCBS is one of the best.
It's possible that the investigations put some stink on the program.
How is arizona fairing on the trail these last few classes? louisville? they may be carrying some stink also.