Kansas Crimson

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:44 am mine fits in my wallet

why should a vax card be any different than a driver’s license, birth certificate or social security card?

if it’s important enough, you’ll take care of it. of course, accidents happen...but the overwhelming majority of adults can, ya know, act like responsible adults

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:46 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:42 am

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:31 am

Not for nothing, but that would still mean 10 million don't have cells, and 50 million don't have smartphones (if this is all humans, not just adults). Probably closer to 7 and 35 million if just 18+.

I didn't dig deep, but it will of course never be 100% with disabled, incarcerated, infirm, etc.

Not with that attitude. I say get

Fun Fact, homeless folks have a similar demographic of cellphone ownership as the general population

"Despite fraught circumstances, the large majority of people experiencing homelessness remains connected and tech savvy.

"Ninety-five percent of people who are homeless have mobile phones, and 80 percent of those have smartphones," said Spriggs. "Often they might be on prepaid phones, with no credit, but they access free Wi-Fi to get online.""

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and- ... %20Spriggs.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:47 am

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:40 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:35 am

Of those 50 million, how many don't have a drawer in the place they live where they can keep documents they'd like to keep track of because they may need them? I'd hate for my alleged lack of empathy for the plight of others less fortunate to result in an unreasonable expectation...

Not sure how much snark, but:

https://www.healthypeople.gov/2020/topi ... nstability

"21.3 million households were cost burdened—of these, 11.4 million households were severely cost burdened."

So that's households, so I would assume around 1.5 people per household. Seems like a significant amount aren't so much worried about drawers, and care more about just having a door that locks.

I doubt that those people are too worried about whether or not they can attend a game at Arrowhead if they lose their vax card. My "well off" ass can't even afford to go to a game.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:43 am
Brother in law in ATF.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:44 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:37 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:33 am Because I thought that it was reasonable to expect people to to store their vaccination card in a location where they wouldn't lose it.

People lose things. Records get misplaced. If you start limiting access to healthcare, schools, work, grocery stores, it has unintended consequences.

Limiting access to a museum or concert is one thing, but when it starts to creep beyond those recreational/leisure activities it gets much more problematic.

And?!? If I leave my drivers license or credit card at a store it causes all sorts of hassles, including not being able to purchase things, board flights, etc... I don't see you calling for us to "fix" this issue so that we can get an instantly issued replacement for those items.

Keep track of your shit or you may have a problem. It's called adulting.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:50 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:43 am
Brother in law in ATF.

zat you, Heisenberg?

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:51 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:50 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:43 am
Brother in law in ATF.

zat you, Heisenberg?

Insert "that went over my head" .gif

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:50 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:44 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:37 am

People lose things. Records get misplaced. If you start limiting access to healthcare, schools, work, grocery stores, it has unintended consequences.

Limiting access to a museum or concert is one thing, but when it starts to creep beyond those recreational/leisure activities it gets much more problematic.

And?!? If I leave my drivers license or credit card at a store it causes all sorts of hassles, including not being able to purchase things, board flights, etc... I don't see you calling for us to "fix" this issue so that we can get an instantly issued replacement for those items.

Keep track of your shit or you may have a problem. It's called adulting.

Haven't seen you vocally calling for ID to vote. But you want proof of vaccination for access to healthcare? Schools? Work?

Like i have said, i support it if it is thought out and well implemented. But i have my doubts.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:59 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:51 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:50 am

zat you, Heisenberg?

Insert "that went over my head" .gif

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:49 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:47 am

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:40 am
Not sure how much snark, but:

https://www.healthypeople.gov/2020/topi ... nstability

"21.3 million households were cost burdened—of these, 11.4 million households were severely cost burdened."

So that's households, so I would assume around 1.5 people per household. Seems like a significant amount aren't so much worried about drawers, and care more about just having a door that locks.

I doubt that those people are too worried about whether or not they can attend a game at Arrowhead if they lose their vax card. My "well off" ass can't even afford to go to a game.

Yeah, but to get into my office, I had to upload my vax card to my company before I started. I know a lot of places are like that around me.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:04 am

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:49 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:47 am

I doubt that those people are too worried about whether or not they can attend a game at Arrowhead if they lose their vax card. My "well off" ass can't even afford to go to a game.

Yeah, but to get into my office, I had to upload my vax card to my company before I started. I know a lot of places are like that around me.

And? Have any of your coworkers been unable to come in to work because they lost their vaccination card?

sdoyel wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:02 am

sdoyel wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:11 am My company required employees to submit their vaccination status (card) in order to avoid having to deal with more strict office policies regarding masking/social distancing...

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:04 am

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:49 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:47 am

I doubt that those people are too worried about whether or not they can attend a game at Arrowhead if they lose their vax card. My "well off" ass can't even afford to go to a game.

Yeah, but to get into my office, I had to upload my vax card to my company before I started. I know a lot of places are like that around me.

And? Have any of your coworkers been unable to come in to work because they lost their vaccination card?

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:20 am Dunno, but I uploaded 3-4 months after getting second shot. I keep mine on my fridge like a drawing of a turkey.

sdoyel wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:11 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:04 am

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:49 am

Yeah, but to get into my office, I had to upload my vax card to my company before I started. I know a lot of places are like that around me.

And? Have any of your coworkers been unable to come in to work because they lost their vaccination card?

My company required employees to submit their vaccination status (card) in order to avoid having to deal with more strict office policies regarding masking/social distancing...

*edit

My company is NOT requiring vaccinations, that said if you are NOT vaccinated and coming to the office you're required to wear your mask 100% of the time. If you ARE vaccinated, you only need to wear your mask when moving around the office or when you're within 6' of someone.