Kansas Crimson

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:59 pm Christ almighty, the brainworms are fierce once they've taken hold.

Is this about citations of pedophile protecting/enabling groups or just the Confederate-flag loving members of those groups?

I hate it when fascists fight:

Can't deny, she's no Boebert or Marjorie Taylor Green:

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:29 pm Can't deny, she's no Boebert or Marjorie Taylor Green:

I DON'T dislike Kamal but cynical me says.....
As someone who has relatives and friends who have kids that have been in the same situation as Kennedy was in the video, that was a wonderful all but scripted interaction - that was allowed to be captured and shared publicly.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:42 am

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:29 pm Can't deny, she's no Boebert or Marjorie Taylor Green:

I DON'T dislike Kamal but cynical me says.....
As someone who has relatives and friends who have kids that have been in the same situation as Kennedy was in the video, that was a wonderful all but scripted interaction - that was allowed to be captured and shared publicly.

^^^

I have a sneaking suspicion this is scripted, too:

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:15 pm

ummm...

It's just as Bannon, Trump, Putin, and Xi want, flood the zone with bullshit, all the time.

Tech bros != Tech tycoons

Sounds legit:

so now cell phone towers, wind turbines, and wifi cause cancer

amazeballs

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:26 am

He isn't a serious enough candidate to do damage to anyone. Just another goofball who will be whining about the establishment trying to get rid of him after no one votes for him in the first handful of primaries. All he will accomplish is to tarnish his family name.

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:15 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:26 am

He isn't a serious enough candidate to do damage to anyone. Just another goofball who will be whining about the establishment trying to get rid of him after no one votes for him in the first handful of primaries. All he will accomplish is to tarnish his family name.

I don't agree. Peel away 2% of the Biden vote in the last election and the result is different.

While the Rs' margin for error is even slimmer, it's not like the Ds are playing from a position of significant electoral advantage. Not in our present system.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:44 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:15 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:26 am

He isn't a serious enough candidate to do damage to anyone. Just another goofball who will be whining about the establishment trying to get rid of him after no one votes for him in the first handful of primaries. All he will accomplish is to tarnish his family name.

I don't agree. Peel away 2% of the Biden vote in the last election and the result is different.

While the Rs' margin for error is even slimmer, it's not like the Ds are playing from a position of significant electoral advantage. Not in our present system.

^^^

The Kennedy name still carries a lot of value in the democratic party, and I'm sure we have our share of low-information voters, too.

Ask: H.W. Bush how he felt about Ross Perot in '92, who got 18.7% of the popular vote, > 19 million votes. HW lost to Bill Clinton by < 6 million votes, and you could easily make the case that Perot was closer to HW then Bill politically.

Ask: Gore how he feels about Ralph Nader in 2000. Gore won the popular vote but lost the electoral college by 4 votes. Gore lost Florida by 537 votes. Nader, a liberal much more aligned with Gore than Bush, won 97,488 votes. Third party candidates garnered 138,063 votes in Florida

Ask: Hillary how she feels about Libertarian Gary Johnson, who garnered 3.3% of the vote. That was nearly 4.4 million votes, > a million more than the total by which Hillary Clinton won the popular vote over Trump. Jill Stein of the Green Party got 1.1%, > 1 million votes, in 2016.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:44 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:15 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:26 am

He isn't a serious enough candidate to do damage to anyone. Just another goofball who will be whining about the establishment trying to get rid of him after no one votes for him in the first handful of primaries. All he will accomplish is to tarnish his family name.

I don't agree. Peel away 2% of the Biden vote in the last election and the result is different.

While the Rs' margin for error is even slimmer, it's not like the Ds are playing from a position of significant electoral advantage. Not in our present system.

Is he running as a third party candidate? If not then he is trying to primary the sitting President in his reelection campaign and would not be in the general election pulling votes from Biden.

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:45 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:44 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:15 pm

He isn't a serious enough candidate to do damage to anyone. Just another goofball who will be whining about the establishment trying to get rid of him after no one votes for him in the first handful of primaries. All he will accomplish is to tarnish his family name.

I don't agree. Peel away 2% of the Biden vote in the last election and the result is different.

While the Rs' margin for error is even slimmer, it's not like the Ds are playing from a position of significant electoral advantage. Not in our present system.

Is he running as a third party candidate? If not then he is trying to primary the sitting President in his reelection campaign and would not be in the general election pulling votes from Biden.

No, at this point, he's running as a democrat.

...about 15 percent of Democrats say they support Kennedy, according to the RealClearPolitics average of polls, as opposed to 62 percent who favor Biden...,

Having him in the primaries hammering Biden constantly will likely take at least some toll.

And with groups like "No Labels" looking so intently for a way to split the democratic vote, and Fox News airing dozens of segments about Kennedy’s campaign and treating him as a serious rival to Biden, and support from former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey who has endorsed him and Elon Musk tweeting him encouragement, it wouldn't surprise me if Jr could become an attractive candidate for some interest group for the general.