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pdub wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 5:05 pm What do the 6ers do now?
It’s not like they are a bad team.

What will they do? I don't know.
Minus 2001, what they have been doing for the last 40 years hasn't worked.

Harden worked with the 6ers better than I thought but he shot them out of a couple games in this series.

Will he be back?

Doc is probably gone and they aren't dumb enough to give Harden a max contact...so I'm sure he'll head back to Houston. It'll be interesting to see if Joel eventually asks to be moved.

That is a stunning record.

I wonder if he realizes they (he & Harden) can't win alone when they (he and Harden) don't show up to a Game 7. Maxey & Harris both scored more points than either of those two did.
In game 6 Maxey scored twice as many points as Harden.
In the post season Maxey averaged more points per game than Harden did.
Harris averaged 15.3

Sorry, Jokic should have won 3rd consecutive MVP.
76ers with Embiid this year: 43-23 vs 11-5 without. (slightly better win percentage without)
Nuggets with Jokic this year: 48-21 vs 5-8 without. (way worse win percentage without)

Isn't that what an MVP is supposed to measure.

By the NBA metric, KU would have gone to the Sweet 16 in his one year here, improving us by exactly 1 game.

I know it's an oversimplification, but for as awesome as he is, meh. I hope he wins 5 'ships in a row. Wait, no I don't. Philly fans are insufferable already.

I think MVP's should be voted on after the entire season ( that includes playoffs ) is over.

I think what impresses me most about Jokic is that no matter what the defense throws at the guy he never gets flustered. He is slow and methodical and it disguises the fact that his brain seems to be a couple of steps ahead of everyone else on the floor. His moves do not look athletic but his balls skills are incredible. He can shoot from any spot on the floor in any position and make the shot. The fact that other players are more athletic and quick and graceful makes them seem like better ball players at times. But the box score don't lie.

The matchup between he and AD in the next round should be fun to watch. Jokic is ploddingly relentless. AD likes to take plays off during a game.

japhy wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 11:47 am I think what impresses me most about Jokic is that no matter what the defense throws at the guy he never gets flustered. He is slow and methodical and it disguises the fact that his brain seems to be a couple of steps ahead of everyone else on the floor. His moves do not look athletic but his balls skills are incredible. He can shoot from any spot on the floor in any position and make the shot. The fact that other players are more athletic and quick and graceful makes them seem like better ball players at times. But the box score don't lie.

The matchup between he and AD in the next round should be fun to watch. Jokic is ploddingly relentless. AD likes to take plays off during a game.

Here is the question. Are Jokic AND Murray as a duo > AD AND LeBron as a duo? I don't think so but wtf do I know?
AD is glass. I figure there is zero chance he makes it out of the Western Finals without an "injury". That happens, the Lakers are done.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 12:20 pm

japhy wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 11:47 am I think what impresses me most about Jokic is that no matter what the defense throws at the guy he never gets flustered. He is slow and methodical and it disguises the fact that his brain seems to be a couple of steps ahead of everyone else on the floor. His moves do not look athletic but his balls skills are incredible. He can shoot from any spot on the floor in any position and make the shot. The fact that other players are more athletic and quick and graceful makes them seem like better ball players at times. But the box score don't lie.

The matchup between he and AD in the next round should be fun to watch. Jokic is ploddingly relentless. AD likes to take plays off during a game.

Here is the question. Are Jokic AND Murray as a duo > AD AND LeBron as a duo? I don't think so but wtf do I know?
AD is glass. I figure there is zero chance he makes it out of the Western Finals without an "injury". That happens, the Lakers are done.

I think Jokic and Murray better by virtue of Jokic being the best player on the floor by a good margin. On paper the rosters match up well. It really will come down to which team plays hardest for the whole game and who gets shots to drop consistently. AD disappears for stretches even when he is on the floor. If that happens Denver wins.

I think the margin between Jokic and either AD and LeBron is significantly less than the margin between either AD/LeBron and Murray.

So I think, if all four are healthy, I'd pick AD and LeBron as my duo, without question.

I'd put AD and LeBron ( again if healthy ) as both top 10 players in the NBA.
Murray would be in the top 50 but not top 25.

Back2Lawrence wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 9:16 am Sorry, Jokic should have won 3rd consecutive MVP.
76ers with Embiid this year: 43-23 vs 11-5 without. (slightly better win percentage without)
Nuggets with Jokic this year: 48-21 vs 5-8 without. (way worse win percentage without)

Isn't that what an MVP is supposed to measure.

By the NBA metric, KU would have gone to the Sweet 16 in his one year here, improving us by exactly 1 game.

I know it's an oversimplification, but for as awesome as he is, meh. I hope he wins 5 'ships in a row. Wait, no I don't. Philly fans are insufferable already.

Don't forget Embiid was injured for this round of playoffs, playing through what was supposed to take a month to heal.

Psychhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 6:23 pm


Don't forget Embiid was injured for this round of playoffs, playing through what was supposed to take a month to heal.

i didn't mention the playoffs at all.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 9:49 am I think MVP's should be voted on after the entire season ( that includes playoffs ) is over.

Thats what the finals mvp award is

A lot of the blame is on Philly, but embiid's playoff performance this season left me wanting more

"Thats what the finals mvp award is"

No.
It is not.
The Finals MVP award is for the best player in the NBA Finals hence it's title, Finals MVP.

The Finals are a best of 7 series played between two teams who have advanced from each conference to be the final two teams in the NBA playoffs.

There is a regular season where teams from each conference play each other multiple times and the teams with the better records after that regular season is over then advance to the aforementioned playoffs.

It would be possible for a player who didn't receive a single vote for the season's MVP to play four very good games at the end of the season and win the Finals MVP.

I believe that the MVP of a season should include both the regular season and the playoffs ( including the Finals ). And then there is the Finals MVP which I explained above. So a player could conceivably win both ( the Finals MVP given within minutes of the ultimate game, the MVP of the season given a few days after ).

Back to painstakingly explaining things.

The mvp award is a regular season award

Finals mvp is the post season award

If we did it your way, there would be no point of having 2 awards