What happened to the immigration thread?

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Overlander wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:40 pm
KUTradition wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:14 pm another mayorkas impeachment vote…because they’ve got zero more pressing issues to deal with
Impeached.
Fucking shit show
When Rs warn Ds of slippery slopes, what isn’t often pictured is one R holding dish soap above a tarp on a hill, and another R getting ready to push someone down.

Unserious opposition party.
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Overlander wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:40 pm
KUTradition wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:14 pm another mayorkas impeachment vote…because they’ve got zero more pressing issues to deal with
Impeached.
Fucking shit show
With emphasis on the word show.

What a waste of time.
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jfish26 wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:24 pm
KUTradition wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:22 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:20 pm

I think - I hope, but I also think - that they’ve badly misread the room (in that the folks are onto their shit).
color me pessimistic
Let’s come back to this conversation after the NY special election results are in.
The Democrat flipped Santos' seat. One step closer to putting the Benny Hill bunch back in the minority.
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jfish26 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:41 am
Overlander wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:40 pm
KUTradition wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:14 pm another mayorkas impeachment vote…because they’ve got zero more pressing issues to deal with
Impeached.
Fucking shit show
When Rs warn Ds of slippery slopes, what isn’t often pictured is one R holding dish soap above a tarp on a hill, and another R getting ready to push someone down.

Unserious opposition party.
I'm hoping the Senate treats this seriously and requires house Rs to produce evidence.
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jhawks99 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:40 am
jfish26 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:41 am
Overlander wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:40 pm

Impeached.
Fucking shit show
When Rs warn Ds of slippery slopes, what isn’t often pictured is one R holding dish soap above a tarp on a hill, and another R getting ready to push someone down.

Unserious opposition party.
I'm hoping the Senate treats this seriously and requires house Rs to produce evidence.
I think the writing is on the wall here - the outcome will be vulnerable House Rs cutting a Ukraine/Israel/Border deal with Jeffries.
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Arizona Republicans advance bill legalizing killing migrants on suspicion of trespassing

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/27/arizon ... grant-kill
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I'm sure that'll end well
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KUTradition wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:59 pm Arizona Republicans advance bill legalizing killing migrants on suspicion of trespassing

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/27/arizon ... grant-kill
Isn't it legal to shoot trespassers in some/many states? "Migrant" or not?
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RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:05 am
KUTradition wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:59 pm Arizona Republicans advance bill legalizing killing migrants on suspicion of trespassing

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/27/arizon ... grant-kill
Isn't it legal to shoot trespassers in some/many states? "Migrant" or not?
You can't shoot someone for walking in your yard in any state that I am aware of.


Either way, it's not a serious bill. It'll be vetoed by the governor.
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DeletedUser wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:12 am
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:05 am
KUTradition wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:59 pm Arizona Republicans advance bill legalizing killing migrants on suspicion of trespassing

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/27/arizon ... grant-kill
Isn't it legal to shoot trespassers in some/many states? "Migrant" or not?
You can't shoot someone for walking in your yard in any state that I am aware of.


Either way, it's not a serious bill. It'll be vetoed by the governor.
I hope it's not legal in any state to shoot someone for simply walking in your yard - but I figure it would be hard for a law enforcement officer/court/judge/prosecutor/ to prove you didn't shoot that person in self defense if you swear under oath that the person at least attempted to physically attack you - and told you that they were going to kill you - and you shot that person in self defense.

I do understand the difference/s between that scenario and using migrants as target practice - because you "legally" can.
Let's hope that bill isn't passed.
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KUTradition wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:59 pm Arizona Republicans advance bill legalizing killing migrants on suspicion of trespassing

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/27/arizon ... grant-kill
The pro life party
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RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:33 am
DeletedUser wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:12 am
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:05 am

Isn't it legal to shoot trespassers in some/many states? "Migrant" or not?
You can't shoot someone for walking in your yard in any state that I am aware of.


Either way, it's not a serious bill. It'll be vetoed by the governor.
I hope it's not legal in any state to shoot someone for simply walking in your yard - but I figure it would be hard for a law enforcement officer/court/judge/prosecutor/ to prove you didn't shoot that person in self defense if you swear under oath that the person at least attempted to physically attack you - and told you that they were going to kill you - and you shot that person in self defense.

I do understand the difference/s between that scenario and using migrants as target practice - because you "legally" can.
Let's hope that bill isn't passed.
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RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:05 am
KUTradition wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:59 pm Arizona Republicans advance bill legalizing killing migrants on suspicion of trespassing

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/27/arizon ... grant-kill
Isn't it legal to shoot trespassers in some/many states? "Migrant" or not?
Texas has a "castle" law. You could legally shoot someone if you feel endangered.

I remember a case back in the early 90s, a guy was in front of a mans home, and they were verbally sparring.
It got serious, and the man on the sidewalk stepped onto the homeowners driveway, and caught a .45 to the chest...DOA. Charges did not come.
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Seeing reporting last night and this morning that Missouri's stand-your-ground law might give the parade shooters a viable defense.

Nice work, everyone.
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Hey wait--aren't we all really good guys with a gun?
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Sparko wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:25 pm Hey wait--aren't we all really good guys with a gun?
Not until we reach the Goldilocks-With-A-Gun Zone - that totally-achievable, not-at-all-ludicrous, self-sustaining equilibrium state in which there are exactly as many guns, held by precisely the right people, such that gun violence is forever eradicated without any regulation needed.
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hmmm…

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna140896

An NBC News review of available 2024 crime data shows overall crime levels dropping in cities that have received the most migrants...
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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KUTradition wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:18 am hmmm…

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna140896

An NBC News review of available 2024 crime data shows overall crime levels dropping in cities that have received the most migrants...
That's what I would expect. Probably not a good idea to commit crimes if you are applying for asylum to enter the country. There will be some but overall, I would expect the percentage of crime from them to be lower than that of US citizens of the same income level.
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KUTradition wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:18 am hmmm…

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna140896

An NBC News review of available 2024 crime data shows overall crime levels dropping in cities that have received the most migrants...
This is what we've been waiting for!

Once people see this and realize Trump has lied to them, he'll be out on his ass and Nikki will be the Republican standard barer.

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