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Mjl wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:01 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:55 am I'm not sure where the whole private employers can't mandate an emergency use vaccine notion came from--I had read it in the media as well. That's not true, though, they can still mandate an emergency use vax. However, full approval likely means less lawsuits challenging a mandate on that theory, which is not on the books anywhere.


Overall, not going to change much. These kooks think the FDA is in on the conspiracy.

It's not that they can't, but it might give some that were on the fence the extra reason to do so.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:58 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:55 am Overall, not going to change much. These kooks think the FDA is in on the conspiracy.

In a world where it's nearly impossible to keep a secret. Somehow every nurse, doctor, government official, and scientist in the world were able to plan and coordinate a global conspiracy with no leaks. Impressive.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:09 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:58 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:55 am Overall, not going to change much. These kooks think the FDA is in on the conspiracy.

In a world where it's nearly impossible to keep a secret. Somehow every nurse, doctor, government official, and scientist in the world were able to plan and coordinate a global conspiracy with no leaks. Impressive.

Always one of my favorite parts about conspiracies: "These world leaders that I hate are the dumbest MFers to ever walk the planet, but are fully capable of flawlessly pulling off some of the biggest coverups in world history"

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:17 am Oregon is expecting to lose 30% of its nurses and 30% of its teachers after enacting vaccine mandates. Exacerbating already critical shortages.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:54 am I understand why they are quitting - an employer shouldn't have control over your body.
That said, I wouldn't want an unvaccinated teacher around my kids.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:54 am I understand why they are quitting - an employer shouldn't have control over your body.
That said, I wouldn't want an unvaccinated teacher around my kids.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:58 am

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:54 am I understand why they are quitting - an employer shouldn't have control over your body.
That said, I wouldn't want an unvaccinated teacher around my kids.

Question - what do you think is the true purpose of paid sick leave?

And then, extrapolate that out.

sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:51 am

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:17 am Oregon is expecting to lose 30% of its nurses and 30% of its teachers after enacting vaccine mandates. Exacerbating already critical shortages.

Oh well. Find a new job... If I were in the hospital, I wouldn't want an unvaxed nurse treating me.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:13 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:58 am

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:54 am I understand why they are quitting - an employer shouldn't have control over your body.
That said, I wouldn't want an unvaccinated teacher around my kids.

Question - what do you think is the true purpose of paid sick leave?

And then, extrapolate that out.

No.
Dumb.

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:34 pm My wife has had to have a flu shot for years. Now they are requiring the vax. I don't see much difference.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:21 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:13 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:58 am

Question - what do you think is the true purpose of paid sick leave?

And then, extrapolate that out.

No.
Dumb.

You failed to answer the question.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:56 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:21 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:13 pm

No.
Dumb.

You failed to answer the question.

I see your reach of a connection.
I decided not to warrant that extreme reach a response.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:58 pm What are the chances this goes from pandemic to endemic? Seems pretty likely to me.

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:14 pm

sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:51 am

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:17 am Oregon is expecting to lose 30% of its nurses and 30% of its teachers after enacting vaccine mandates. Exacerbating already critical shortages.

Oh well. Find a new job... If I were in the hospital, I wouldn't want an unvaxed nurse treating me.

Why? If youre vaxed then your risk is the same either way.


Its also not about them finding new jobs.

Its about not having enough trained staff to fill positions in fields that sre already stretched thin.

Also, without rehashing the whole damn argument. Its about setting a slippery slope precedent.

zsn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:22 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:14 pm

sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:51 am

Oh well. Find a new job... If I were in the hospital, I wouldn't want an unvaxed nurse treating me.

Why? If youre vaxed then your risk is the same either way.


Its also not about them finding new jobs.

Its about not having enough trained staff to fill positions in fields that sre already stretched thin.

Also, without rehashing the whole damn argument. Its about setting a slippery slope precedent.

Unless they have a damned good medical reason I don’t want an unvaccinated medical professional administering treatment to me. I would consider a nurse or doctor refusing vaccination to be inadequately trained. I would have no confidence in the medical care they are about to provide me. It’s not unlike having a policeman who didn’t believe in STOP signs or speed limits.