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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:44 am
by randylahey
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:32 am
randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:26 am Im trying to bring things back to reality and remove politics from it. Stating the obvious that the dems blew covid out of proportion to use in the election is just stating what happened. Did you not watch any debates or anything
Gold.
Do you disagree that it happened?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:44 am
by CrimsonNBlue
The big reasons why some other countries have vax passports or similar for their own citizens is because they don't have enough vaccines for their entire population yet. Or, they have different versions, like A-Z, that take 8-12 weeks before someone can get the second dose. Slower process, slower movement toward 70/80% vax status.
That problem doesn't exist in the States.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:47 am
by randylahey
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:39 am
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:38 am
randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:26 am
I night be the least political person on here. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean its political. My point this entire thread is people need to be able to make their own choices and decisions. Im anti mandate anti government regulation. Im trying to bring things back to reality and remove politics from it. Stating the obvious that the dems blew covid out of proportion to use in the election is just stating what happened. Did you not watch any debates or anything
630,000 and climbing. NBD right?
Just in the US.
For almost 2 years? Not really a big deal. Its about how many die from cancer or heart disease in 1 year
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:48 am
by jfish26
randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:44 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:32 am
randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:26 am Im trying to bring things back to reality and remove politics from it. Stating the obvious that the dems blew covid out of proportion to use in the election is just stating what happened. Did you not watch any debates or anything
Gold.
Do you disagree that it happened?
I fail to see how a pandemic killing
six hundred thirty thousands Americans could possibly even be blown out of proportion.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:48 am
by twocoach
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:41 am
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:38 amHell, we wouldn't even be arguing about vaccine mandates or passports cause we'd all have just done it.
Bingo! I said this almost word for word to a friend yesterday. We shouldn't even be discussing this shit at this point.
100% agreed.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:50 am
by randylahey
If you keep in mind about 3 million people die every year in the USA. 630000 deaths labeled as covid deaths over the course of nearly 2 years isn't that much. And key word is labeled as covid deaths. At one point the cdc said 94 percent of "covid deaths" had other contributing factors
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:50 am
by Deleted User 863
Do you guys think that 630k number is inflated? None? Some? Quite a bit?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:52 am
by randylahey
The way this statistics were compiled was skewed too. I knew a guy who died in a motor cycle crash and happened to have covid with no symptoms the time. But covid was listed on the death certificate and he counted as one of those deaths
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:53 am
by jhawks99
My uncle's grandma stubbed her big toe in 1932. Yup, covid.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:54 am
by jfish26
randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:50 am
If you keep in mind about 3 million people die every year in the USA. 630000 deaths labeled as covid deaths over the course of nearly 2 years isn't that much. And key word is labeled as covid deaths. At one point the cdc said 94 percent of "covid deaths" had other contributing factors
I would not want to be the one in this situation trying to argue that a pandemic that has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans is
actually not so bad.
Particularly when, from the outset, the people I aligned with the most on the issue (and who were in control) were openly
intending and trying to minimize the statistics.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:54 am
by randylahey
So yes 630k people died with covid but the amount of people that truly died just from covid is a small fraction of that. And over the course of 2 years thats a small number
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:55 am
by CrimsonNBlue
I knew a guy that died from covid but they listed it as a fatal motorcycle accident.
Name: Evil something.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:55 am
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:50 am
Do you guys think that 630k number is inflated? None? Some? Quite a bit?
There are probably some states that overstated their totals and some that understated their totals so like bad ref calls in a basketball game, it averages out over time.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:56 am
by Deleted User 89
good to know that US politicization and dem hysteria are contagious globally
surprised the rest of the world isn’t blaming the dems for their covid problems...
/sarcasm
the lack of logical thinking expressed by some here is truly astonishing
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:56 am
by sdoyel
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:50 am
Do you guys think that 630k number is inflated? None? Some? Quite a bit?
I’d say it’s low. Remember the nuts out there faking the cause of death on death certificates because they’re too humiliated to call it Covid?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:57 am
by sdoyel
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:56 am
good to know that US politicization and dem hysteria are contagious globally
surprised the rest of the world isn’t blaming the dems for their covid problems...
/sarcasm
the lack of logical thinking expressed by some here is truly astonishing
I’m not truly sold that Randy is actually vaxed.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:57 am
by randylahey
The cdc also reports about 600k people die each year from cancer or from heart disease. Covid killed about half of that in one year.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:58 am
by randylahey
And a lot those covid deaths included people with heart disease or cancer
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:58 am
by jfish26
randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:58 am
And a lot those covid deaths included people with heart disease or cancer
Again, being the one taking these positions should probably cause some introspection.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:01 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I bet Randy knew all of those people too.