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Re: Royals

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:30 am
by pdub
I know this isn't how it works but Salvys like what, 8 WAR right now?

Re: Royals

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:51 am
by NewtonHawk11
Just looked at it because you mentioned it. .4 WAR. Odd.

You mean to tell me Cam Callagher and Sebastian Riveria or whatever would be close to same output too..?

Re: Royals

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:12 am
by Sparko
WAR: wannabe amateur rating. I loved Bill James essays, but he wasn’t even a good mathematician IMHO. He ushered in a legion who were, but some of his standards are useless. WAR is my least favorite because if you are surrounded by awful players, it cannot possibly gauge anything (Starters Active on Lackluster Teams—SALT) Spray charts are significant. Propensity/aggression charts are significant. But outfield assists and an array of tried and true stats convey the information without some pompous comparative math garbage. The Royals have some clutch bats that widen the hitting zone above replacement. Intangible. Salvy won three games in a homestand by making exactly the right read defensively and with his bat. He is currently the most important daily player on an AL roster. Nurturing young pitchers, making aggressive pickoff throws, clutch hitting—HRs or base hits depending on the situation.

Re: Royals

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:28 am
by pdub
It's somewhat a similar stat to +/-.

Re: Royals

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:29 am
by Cascadia
WAR is definitely a flawed and overused metric. But fanboys eat it up.

Re: Royals

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:30 am
by Sparko
Really, the eye test tells you the Royals have three wins that without Salvy they wouldn’t have over the last week. But extended metrics also include getting pitched around or hitting long flies into an arctic front. Or booting a ball no one else reaches.

Re: Royals

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:39 pm
by Deleted User 865
Holy shit, Benintendi just made ESPN #1 play fully laying out for a ball. That was incredible.


Re: Royals

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:19 pm
by Sparko
Some good defense tonight

Re: Royals

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:24 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Are the Royals.... Good?

Re: Royals

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:38 pm
by Sparko
With that 100 mph fastball closer and the wily veteran closers on the back end? And Mondi and Witt Jr. on the way, this is looking promising. Some great defense too and thump in the bats.

Re: Royals

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:45 pm
by Cascadia
Great start to this road trip (and 23 game stretch). Duffy tomorrow, a win would be huge.

Re: Royals

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:46 pm
by Deleted User 865
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:24 pm Are the Royals.... Good?
Royals are a good team, but not sure if they are good. I think they have a lot going for them. Making it to May above 500 is promising. The central being weak and then playing in the clutch has been great to see

Re: Royals

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:17 am
by Sparko
The Royals actually have depth this year at every position--pretty nice luxury.

Re: Royals

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:09 pm
by Cascadia
Can’t believe they pulled Duffy after 5 innings, 4 hits, 8 k’s and no walks

Re: Royals

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:13 pm
by Cascadia
Got to the 7th . HGH Time......oh wait....

Re: Royals

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:00 pm
by Deleted User 865
Cascadia wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:09 pm Can’t believe they pulled Duffy after 5 innings, 4 hits, 8 k’s and no walks
I was hiking and just watching scoring plays. Did he have a high pitch count? Because that’s crazy to pull him if it wasn’t 100 pitches yet.

This is getting close to calling this 2014. A’s with best AL record, and Royals showing a lot of fight.

Re: Royals

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:16 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Detroit is terrible. That’s why you beat them down when you play.

Sko Yals

Re: Royals

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:48 pm
by Deleted User 865
Detroit is terrible, but sweeping any MLB team on their home field, especially divisional, is a reason to get excited

Re: Royals

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:28 pm
by Cascadia
vega wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:00 pm
Cascadia wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:09 pm Can’t believe they pulled Duffy after 5 innings, 4 hits, 8 k’s and no walks
I was hiking and just watching scoring plays. Did he have a high pitch count? Because that’s crazy to pull him if it wasn’t 100 pitches yet.

This is getting close to calling this 2014. A’s with best AL record, and Royals showing a lot of fight.
Still don’t have a good feel for if this is 2013 or 2014.

Would honestly take either

Re: Royals

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:46 am
by jfish26
vega wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:48 pm Detroit is terrible, but sweeping any MLB team on their home field, especially divisional, is a reason to get excited
Haven't swept em yet (getaway game at noon today).

Are the Royals going to go 102-60? They're not.

But it's more likely that they'll win 90 games now than 70, and it's enormous to keep stacking up these wins when you're still getting nothing/effectively nothing from Witt/Soler/Mondesi. And Dozier/Keller, to a lesser extent.

This is exactly the sort of thing you want to do - buy yourself a bit of a cushion - if you want to get to July and have really interesting decisions to make (on which prospects do you start the clock?; do you spin any prospects for lineup help now?).