Kansas Crimson

chiknbut wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 10:46 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 10:34 am Where in my post did I state that the old people should carry on like nothing is wrong. How could you come to that conclusion?

Is this question open to everyone or just the "elites?"

Grandma wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 12:17 pm Snooze. Boring. One quick "fly over".

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 9:39 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 9:28 am The flyovers are so dumb.

What’s the operating costs of a fighter jet? How many N95 masks per gallon?

I get the sentiment. But those flyovers are also training exercises, which are folded into operational budgets. They're not extra.

One of the B-2 pilots lives not far from me. The B-2 flyovers are actually training bombing runs (precise time-on-target exercises). All computers are 'go' - a specific thing within the stadium is identified as the target.

zsn wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 6:03 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 9:39 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 9:28 am The flyovers are so dumb.

What’s the operating costs of a fighter jet? How many N95 masks per gallon?

I get the sentiment. But those flyovers are also training exercises, which are folded into operational budgets. They're not extra.

One of the B-2 pilots lives not far from me. The B-2 flyovers are actually training bombing runs (precise time-on-target exercises). All computers are 'go' - a specific thing within the stadium is identified as the target.

Couldn't they do it in a simulator now? I am sure that "under the right circumstances" they would train only in simulators and the FAA and the USAF-powers would waive time-critical training requirements. I believe these are "right circumstances". In-home-education math problem: how many unemployed restaurant workers could be paid with the cost of one month's worth of flyovers? I got into it with my sister last week when she used the same argument when the Blue Angels were over the DFW area (her husband works for a defense contractor, so it didn't help ). What does "already paid for" mean? We could not burn all that fuel.......Yes, the salaries are paid but not other expenses. Fly them all you want in f-ing San Diego or Pensacola..........don't tell me you have do all the training all over the US where you have to move all the aircraft and equipment and then get them all back to wherever the Blue Angels are based. I refuse to believe that if we don't do 25-30 shows but only 4 shows somehow the pilots or the aircraft are any less prepared.

While we're at it........GET OFF MY LAWN

Feral wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:39 am

TDub wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 11:37 pm

zsn wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 6:03 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 9:39 am

I get the sentiment. But those flyovers are also training exercises, which are folded into operational budgets. They're not extra.

One of the B-2 pilots lives not far from me. The B-2 flyovers are actually training bombing runs (precise time-on-target exercises). All computers are 'go' - a specific thing within the stadium is identified as the target.

Couldn't they do it in a simulator now? I am sure that "under the right circumstances" they would train only in simulators and the FAA and the USAF-powers would waive time-critical training requirements. I believe these are "right circumstances". In-home-education math problem: how many unemployed restaurant workers could be paid with the cost of one month's worth of flyovers? I got into it with my sister last week when she used the same argument when the Blue Angels were over the DFW area (her husband works for a defense contractor, so it didn't help ). What does "already paid for" mean? We could not burn all that fuel.......Yes, the salaries are paid but not other expenses. Fly them all you want in f-ing San Diego or Pensacola..........don't tell me you have do all the training all over the US where you have to move all the aircraft and equipment and then get them all back to wherever the Blue Angels are based. I refuse to believe that if we don't do 25-30 shows but only 4 shows somehow the pilots or the aircraft are any less prepared.

While we're at it........GET OFF MY LAWN

Simulators are great. Nothing is like the real thing for preparation. At least thats true in everything Ive done, Im not a bomber pilot though.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 9:10 am Only true internet deviants and malcontents would complain about a flyover.

Grandma wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 9:22 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 9:10 am Only true internet deviants and malcontents would complain about a flyover.

That's rich - coming from you.
As someone who has watched at least 50 Chicago Air & Water Shows (as well as practices) and who has friends and family members "on the front line" of health care, I believe I am entitled to feel a simple once over "fly over" and the alleged reasoning for it - was lame.
If that makes me a "true internet deviant and malcontent", I'm guilty as charged.
Next.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 9:28 am Why would you go to a flyover expecting an air show? You wouldn’t.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 9:11 am

TDub wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 11:37 pm

zsn wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 6:03 pm
We could not burn all that fuel.......Yes, the salaries are paid but not other expenses. Fly them all you want in f-ing San Diego or Pensacola..........don't tell me you have do all the training all over the US where you have to move all the aircraft and equipment and then get them all back to wherever the Blue Angels are based. I refuse to believe that if we don't do 25-30 shows but only 4 shows somehow the pilots or the aircraft are any less prepared.

Simulators are great. Nothing is like the real thing for preparation. At least thats true in everything Ive done, Im not a bomber pilot though.

It's also the case that simulator work doesn't do a lot for the folks whose jobs are more on the maintenance and logistics side of things. Fine enough for pilots and weapons systems operators, but leaves a big gap.

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 10:51 am My nurse spouse just rolled her eyes.