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Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:53 am
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:50 am
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:47 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:46 am
actually, no way bro.
I’m putting that shit in Airbnb for yall. More money for me.
If other folks in my community can’t find anywhere to live, that’s their problem.
No one should earn an income. Government provided housing only....
You could go to prison, you food and housing would be all taken care of for you.
You say shit like this, then maintain I’m the one with the insane takes
Like 5 people have asked you what it is you actually want and you cant even answer that simple question.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:54 am
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:52 am
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:50 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:47 am
Oh come on bro, the boss doesn’t golf ALL day.
He at least usually checks his phone before he starts the back 9
You live in an alternate reality.
No really!
My boss is effectively retired, does whatever he wants all day, only “works” when he’s interested in getting his say, and it’s all his prerogative to do so cuz he’s the one with the capital.
Do you wanna argue he shouldn’t?
So youre basing your entire world view on 1 boss
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:56 am
by TDub
Its been fun. I gotta go run a jackhammer for the next 4 or 5 hours. Hopefully youll have it all sorted out by then.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:59 am
by ousdahl
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:50 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:46 am
actually, no way bro.
I’m putting that shit in Airbnb for yall. More money for me.
If other folks in my community can’t find anywhere to live, that’s their problem.
So they should just give their house away?
You're talking about a very very small and incredibly specific group of people who, can't afford a home, but suddenly could if only the market dipped slightly due to people not buying vacation homes.
If we’re really gonna discuss my community, there have been short term rental taxes, and existing tax raises, considered that would go toward mitigating the local housing crisis.
But they aren’t getting far, cuz right now the even bigger issue is how many units are renting without obtaining the short term rental license
And I wonder how many temporarily embarrassed millionaire locals still argue in favor of deregulated free markets, rather than a place for them to live.
In fact, the ones who DO want the short term rental license are yall tourists, who are awful disappointed to learn their unlicensed Airbnb rental never sought the requirement to have a local property manager available within an hour of calling when that leaky faucet starts ruining yall’s vacation.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:01 pm
by ousdahl
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:54 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:52 am
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:50 am
You live in an alternate reality.
No really!
My boss is effectively retired, does whatever he wants all day, only “works” when he’s interested in getting his say, and it’s all his prerogative to do so cuz he’s the one with the capital.
Do you wanna argue he shouldn’t?
So youre basing your entire world view on 1 boss
No, I’m not.
Please don’t try to tell me my experiences are not valid.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:02 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:01 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:54 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:52 am
No really!
My boss is effectively retired, does whatever he wants all day, only “works” when he’s interested in getting his say, and it’s all his prerogative to do so cuz he’s the one with the capital.
Do you wanna argue he shouldn’t?
So youre basing your entire world view on 1 boss
No, I’m not.
Please don’t try to tell me my experiences are not valid.
After a whole thread of you telling everyone else their experiences arent valid?
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:04 pm
by TDub
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:56 am
Its been fun. I gotta go run a jackhammer for the next 4 or 5 hours. Hopefully youll have it all sorted out by then.
By the way.....this is happening after tearing out a deck and digging a 30 ft 3 ft deep trench to replace a sewer line. It also goes ubder the patio so its gotta go...theb more digging. All will have ti relaced after the new pipe is in. Just one if those expenses a renter doesnt have to worry about. But is going to cost time and money to me....the landowner who has to keep the property running and livable.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:05 pm
by ousdahl
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:53 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:50 am
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:47 am
No one should earn an income. Government provided housing only....
You could go to prison, you food and housing would be all taken care of for you.
You say shit like this, then maintain I’m the one with the insane takes
Like 5 people have asked you what it is you actually want and you cant even answer that simple question.
I’ve been trying to address this, actually, but I can’t even post something without being quoted 5 times first.
If I want something, it’s for home ownership to be more attainable to more hard working Mericans, rather than have some sort neofeudal model where more and more property is owner by fewer and fewer people, and everyone else is effectively indentured.
Even more generally, I want a society in which not every damn thing has to be about money, and can have some human element to it sometimes too.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:05 pm
by TDub
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:04 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:56 am
Its been fun. I gotta go run a jackhammer for the next 4 or 5 hours. Hopefully youll have it all sorted out by then.
By the way.....this is happening after tearing out a deck and digging a 30 ft 3 ft deep trench to replace a sewer line. It also goes ubder the patio so its gotta go...theb more digging. All will have ti relaced after the new pipe is in. Just one if those expenses a renter doesnt have to worry about. But is going to cost time and money to me....the landowner who has to keep the property running and livable.
Hope you dont run me off if i rent this place to someone later on....maybe even at more than mortgage is....
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:07 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:59 am
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:50 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:46 am
actually, no way bro.
I’m putting that shit in Airbnb for yall. More money for me.
If other folks in my community can’t find anywhere to live, that’s their problem.
So they should just give their house away?
You're talking about a very very small and incredibly specific group of people who, can't afford a home, but suddenly could if only the market dipped slightly due to people not buying vacation homes.
If we’re really gonna discuss my community, there have been short term rental taxes, and existing tax raises, considered that would go toward mitigating the local housing crisis.
But they aren’t getting far, cuz right now the even bigger issue is how many units are renting without obtaining the short term rental license
And I wonder how many temporarily embarrassed millionaire locals still argue in favor of deregulated free markets, rather than a place for them to live.
In fact, the ones who DO want the short term rental license are yall tourists, who are awful disappointed to learn their unlicensed Airbnb rental never sought the requirement to have a local property manager available within an hour of calling when that leaky faucet starts ruining yall’s vacation.
Sounds like what has happened is that the growth of your market has now priced many "locals" out of the housing they want. Other people want those properties enough that they will pay a premium to live in that area. That's good and bad. Good for the area because growth is good (more taxes, etc). Bad because some of the people who really like the area now can't afford it. Those people will have to find a new area that is more affordable.
The locals don't "own" the area. They aren't entitled to it just because they liked it first.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:08 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:44 am
Shit, if you can’t beat em, join em.
I’m interested in a career change. I wanna be a professional landlord!
In lieu of a School Of Landlording, I guess I’ll just have to seek investors.
Who wants to buy property and have me manage it for you??
That just makes you the property manager, not the owner.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:08 pm
by PhDhawk
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:59 am
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:50 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:46 am
actually, no way bro.
I’m putting that shit in Airbnb for yall. More money for me.
If other folks in my community can’t find anywhere to live, that’s their problem.
So they should just give their house away?
You're talking about a very very small and incredibly specific group of people who, can't afford a home, but suddenly could if only the market dipped slightly due to people not buying vacation homes.
If we’re really gonna discuss my community, there have been short term rental taxes, and existing tax raises, considered that would go toward mitigating the local housing crisis.
But they aren’t getting far, cuz right now the even bigger issue is how many units are renting without obtaining the short term rental license
And I wonder how many temporarily embarrassed millionaire locals still argue in favor of deregulated free markets, rather than a place for them to live.
In fact, the ones who DO want the short term rental license are yall tourists, who are awful disappointed to learn their unlicensed Airbnb rental never sought the requirement to have a local property manager available within an hour of calling when that leaky faucet starts ruining yall’s vacation.
It seems to me more like you have a problem with enforcement of local laws than you do with landlords.
If the housing crisis is that bad, it sounds like what you need is someone to build some lower-priced homes in the area, maybe a couple of apartment buildings, or some townhouses. That sounds like the hero you need. That would be a landlord.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:09 pm
by PhDhawk
twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:08 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:44 am
Shit, if you can’t beat em, join em.
I’m interested in a career change. I wanna be a professional landlord!
In lieu of a School Of Landlording, I guess I’ll just have to seek investors.
Who wants to buy property and have me manage it for you??
That just makes you the property manager, not the owner.
Good way to earn enough money to buy some property.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:09 pm
by ousdahl
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:04 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:56 am
Its been fun. I gotta go run a jackhammer for the next 4 or 5 hours. Hopefully youll have it all sorted out by then.
By the way.....this is happening after tearing out a deck and digging a 30 ft 3 ft deep trench to replace a sewer line. It also goes ubder the patio so its gotta go...theb more digging. All will have ti relaced after the new pipe is in. Just one if those expenses a renter doesnt have to worry about. But is going to cost time and money to me....the landowner who has to keep the property running and livable.
Our septic tank went out a couple years ago, actually.
Our landlord said, “that sucks! But hey can you and beav do me a favor go check out the septic system, I forgot where the lid to it is so just go look for it in the yard. If you can’t figure it out, can you call around for a septic guy? But you guys try to fix first. And in the meantime, better not use the plumbing.”
How is that something a renter doesn’t have to worry about?
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:12 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:05 pm
If I want something, it’s for home ownership to be more attainable to more hard working Mericans, rather than have some sort neofeudal model where more and more property is owner by fewer and fewer people, and everyone else is effectively indentured.
Even more generally, I want a society in which not every damn thing has to be about money, and can have some human element to it sometimes too.
Approximately 65% of us own our homes.
Of that other 35% there is at least a decent portion who live in large cities where they choose to rent.
Homeownership is attainable for you, but your career/income and location don't fit together. It is always going to cost more to live in popular places. You live in a very popular place. You're not entitled to that place anymore than anyone else.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:14 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:09 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:04 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:56 am
Its been fun. I gotta go run a jackhammer for the next 4 or 5 hours. Hopefully youll have it all sorted out by then.
By the way.....this is happening after tearing out a deck and digging a 30 ft 3 ft deep trench to replace a sewer line. It also goes ubder the patio so its gotta go...theb more digging. All will have ti relaced after the new pipe is in. Just one if those expenses a renter doesnt have to worry about. But is going to cost time and money to me....the landowner who has to keep the property running and livable.
Our septic tank went out a couple years ago, actually.
Our landlord said, “that sucks! But hey can you and beav do me a favor go check out the septic system, I forgot where the lid to it is so just go look for it in the yard. If you can’t figure it out, can you call around for a septic guy? But you guys try to fix first. And in the meantime, better not use the plumbing.”
How is that something a renter doesn’t have to worry about?
Sorry, but sounds like a made up story.
And if it isn't then you're not very smart for staying a "couple more years" in his property.
There are laws landlords have to follow and if they don't you can file a lawsuit against them.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:15 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:05 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:53 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:50 am
You say shit like this, then maintain I’m the one with the insane takes
Like 5 people have asked you what it is you actually want and you cant even answer that simple question.
I’ve been trying to address this, actually, but I can’t even post something without being quoted 5 times first.
If I want something, it’s for home ownership to be more attainable to more hard working Mericans, rather than have some sort neofeudal model where more and more property is owner by fewer and fewer people, and everyone else is effectively indentured.
Even more generally, I want a society in which not every damn thing has to be about money, and can have some human element to it sometimes too.
Then you're in luck because not every damn thing is about money. Who you spend time with, where you spend your time and what you do with your time are all decisions that don't have to have money involved in them if you choose.
But owning property is about money, especially when you live in an area where people desire to be. Trust me, I'd love to go back to the days where I could get a 3 bedroom house in Colorado Springs for $800 a month and the most expensive lift ticket was Vail at $52 a day. But that isn't today's reality.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:17 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:09 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:04 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:56 am
Its been fun. I gotta go run a jackhammer for the next 4 or 5 hours. Hopefully youll have it all sorted out by then.
By the way.....this is happening after tearing out a deck and digging a 30 ft 3 ft deep trench to replace a sewer line. It also goes ubder the patio so its gotta go...theb more digging. All will have ti relaced after the new pipe is in. Just one if those expenses a renter doesnt have to worry about. But is going to cost time and money to me....the landowner who has to keep the property running and livable.
Our septic tank went out a couple years ago, actually.
Our landlord said, “that sucks! But hey can you and beav do me a favor go check out the septic system, I forgot where the lid to it is so just go look for it in the yard. If you can’t figure it out, can you call around for a septic guy? But you guys try to fix first. And in the meantime, better not use the plumbing.”
How is that something a renter doesn’t have to worry about?
If that's true then you are a pushover who is being taken advantage of.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:18 pm
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:14 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:09 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:04 pm
By the way.....this is happening after tearing out a deck and digging a 30 ft 3 ft deep trench to replace a sewer line. It also goes ubder the patio so its gotta go...theb more digging. All will have ti relaced after the new pipe is in. Just one if those expenses a renter doesnt have to worry about. But is going to cost time and money to me....the landowner who has to keep the property running and livable.
Our septic tank went out a couple years ago, actually.
Our landlord said, “that sucks! But hey can you and beav do me a favor go check out the septic system, I forgot where the lid to it is so just go look for it in the yard. If you can’t figure it out, can you call around for a septic guy? But you guys try to fix first. And in the meantime, better not use the plumbing.”
How is that something a renter doesn’t have to worry about?
Sorry, but sounds like a made up story.
And if it isn't then you're not very smart for staying a "couple more years" in his property.
There are laws landlords have to follow and if they don't you can file a lawsuit against them.
This is a common theme in this thread and across the boreds.
Me: what about this you guys?
Folks: but it never actually happens like this!
Me: here’s a first hand account of this happening.
Folks: you’re just making that up!
Re: Strikes
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:24 pm
by PhDhawk
Yeah, but if you present a general problem based on one experience, and then the no one else has the shared experience, maybe that single bad experience is not good support for the problem you're presenting because it's rare or a one off.