Pity the Demonrat

[HouseDivided]

I couldn't live my everyday life with that level of paranoia. Sometimes I think some people try too hard to be offended by things that really aren't that serious.

He even called the white male a creepy porn lawyer..and someone else Spartacus.

There is plenty of sexism (and racism) in our country, but trying to make everything about gender or race really ruins it for when there is actual sexism and racism imo.

I do find it interesting that bashing all white males now seems like a hobby by the extreme left...there are plenty of bad white males, but not all of us are bad, and when you start stereotyping an entire group of people it really opens up the possibility of looking ignorant (whether white males, or black males, or white women or black women, etc).

You make a great point about perception and cognition, which is that, when you say things too many times, they lose their original meaning and the power that went with them.

[seahawk]

The democrats are eventually going to need to distance themselves from these race-obsessed people who think all whites are privileged, as well as distancing themselves from the feminists and the idea that "women are oppressed in America". Most voters can see through the bullshit of these complaints, and they need to focus on the real issues.

You want them to be republicans.

Why don't you point out how I'm wrong rather than posting some silly response. I'm not a republican or democrat. Extremists on both sides are dragging this country off a cliff.

Suggesting that women shouldn't complain about being raped, because more men than women wind up in prison, therefore more men get raped, would seem like a very extremist position.

[Deleted User 75]

You want them to be republicans.

Why don't you point out how I'm wrong rather than posting some silly response. I'm not a republican or democrat. Extremists on both sides are dragging this country off a cliff.

Suggesting that women shouldn't complain about being raped, because more men than women wind up in prison, therefore more men get raped, would seem like a very extremist position.

Nobody said that. Nobody thinks women shouldn't report rape. Nobody. That's ridiculous.

[Deleted User 57]

I couldn't live my everyday life with that level of paranoia. Sometimes I think some people try too hard to be offended by things that really aren't that serious.

He even called the white male a creepy porn lawyer..and someone else Spartacus.

There is plenty of sexism (and racism) in our country, but trying to make everything about gender or race really ruins it for when there is actual sexism and racism imo.

I do find it interesting that bashing all white males now seems like a hobby by the extreme left...there are plenty of bad white males, but not all of us are bad, and when you start stereotyping an entire group of people it really opens up the possibility of looking ignorant (whether white males, or black males, or white women or black women, etc).

Do you not realize that the "extreme left" bashes "white males" because the "extreme right" is made up of such an extremely disproportionate amount of white males ((compared to the rest of the American people) and there really aren't too many people of other races/religions/ancestry/ and gender other than "white males" who are "members" of the "extreme right" political makeup?
If you were referring to "white males" in general, welcome to America ("right" AND "left" America) where since 1776 the majority of white people have always held a higher standard in terms of behavioral expectations among each other than they have those of "lesser" races.

[ousdahl]

Gutter, I mean Mrs. Gutter, but what about all the gay black supremacists?

[twocoach]

The democrats are eventually going to need to distance themselves from these race-obsessed people who think all whites are privileged, as well as distancing themselves from the feminists and the idea that "women are oppressed in America". Most voters can see through the bullshit of these complaints, and they need to focus on the real issues.

Again with the word "all". There's no need to overdramatize. But there is no debating that more white children start life at an inherent advantage.

% of children in single parent families by race as of 2016
Black: 66%
White: 24%

% of kids 18 or under in households with parent(s) max education level at high school or less:

Black: 36%
White: 18%

% of kids in homes that are low income/poor/deep poverty:
Black: 61%/34%/17%
White: 28%/12%/5%

This isnt some big myth. Being born as a white man to the parents of 2 college educated middle class earners did provide me with advantages that many people of color in this country simply did not have.

Some kids are doomed from Day One due to no fault of their own. Maybe you have no empathy for those less fortunate but I prefer to try to support platforms that make an effort to help those folks.

[HouseDivided]

The democrats are eventually going to need to distance themselves from these race-obsessed people who think all whites are privileged, as well as distancing themselves from the feminists and the idea that "women are oppressed in America". Most voters can see through the bullshit of these complaints, and they need to focus on the real issues.

Again with the word "all". There's no need to overdramatize. But there is no debating that more white children start life at an inherent advantage.

% of children in single parent families by race as of 2016
Black: 66%
White: 24%

% of kids 18 or under in households with parent(s) max education level at high school or less:

Black: 36%
White: 18%

% of kids in homes that are low income/poor/deep poverty:
Black: 61%/34%/17%
White: 28%/12%/5%

This isnt some big myth. Being born as a white man to the parents of 2 college educated middle class earners did provide me with advantages that many people of color in this country simply did not have.

Some kids are doomed from Day One due to no fault of their own. Maybe you have no empathy for those less fortunate but I prefer to try to support platforms that make an effort to help those folks.

Your statistics beg a serious question: Whose responsibility is it to mitigate these differences? Personally, I have my hands full raising and educating my own children, so expecting me to take care of the needs of other peoples' kids is unreasonable in my estimation. Burdening me with more taxes so that government can do it also detracts from my ability to care for my own kids. I understand the need to have a social safety net of sorts, but we have gone way overboard in terms of what we think we "owe" the less fortunate in this country.

[seahawk]

I couldn't live my everyday life with that level of paranoia. Sometimes I think some people try too hard to be offended by things that really aren't that serious.

He even called the white male a creepy porn lawyer..and someone else Spartacus.

There is plenty of sexism (and racism) in our country, but trying to make everything about gender or race really ruins it for when there is actual sexism and racism imo.

I do find it interesting that bashing all white males now seems like a hobby by the extreme left...there are plenty of bad white males, but not all of us are bad, and when you start stereotyping an entire group of people it really opens up the possibility of looking ignorant (whether white males, or black males, or white women or black women, etc).

You make a great point about perception and cognition, which is that, when you say things too many times, they lose their original meaning and the power that went with them.

Why, thank you, Massa, for that explanation.

[HouseDivided]

I couldn't live my everyday life with that level of paranoia. Sometimes I think some people try too hard to be offended by things that really aren't that serious.

He even called the white male a creepy porn lawyer..and someone else Spartacus.

There is plenty of sexism (and racism) in our country, but trying to make everything about gender or race really ruins it for when there is actual sexism and racism imo.

I do find it interesting that bashing all white males now seems like a hobby by the extreme left...there are plenty of bad white males, but not all of us are bad, and when you start stereotyping an entire group of people it really opens up the possibility of looking ignorant (whether white males, or black males, or white women or black women, etc).

You make a great point about perception and cognition, which is that, when you say things too many times, they lose their original meaning and the power that went with them.

Why, thank you, Massa, for that explanation.

Thank you for (inadvertently) proving my point.

[seahawk]

Actually, you proved mine. White male wingers approve when women or people of color are called by historical labels and disparage those who disagree with that kind of smearing. Just wondered if the same white males would be bothered when historical terms for their racial/gender group were applied to them.

That you replied....

[HouseDivided]

Actually, you proved mine. White male wingers approve when women or people of color are called by historical labels and disparage those who disagree with that kind of smearing. Just wondered if the same white males would be bothered when historical terms for their racial/gender group were applied to them.

That you replied....

I think you and I are talking about different concepts. Here's an example of what I am saying: In all of my classes, I give a quiz over assigned reading that is due before the start of class. Each one is taken online, has a ten-minute time limit, and locks students out if they open another browser tab, all of which is designed to discourage looking up answers in the text or online. The quizzes are ten questions, multiple guess and T/F and are not intended to anything other than to hold them accountable to be ready to discuss the material. If you have a passing familiarity with the concepts, you do great.

The past couple of years I have experienced a tidal wave of students coming to me in tears claiming that the expectations and time limits are causing them "anxiety" that should excuse them from taking the quizzes or should mean that they get unlimited time and/or permission to use the book and notes.

Here's what I tell them: Anxiety is normal. A certain amount of anxiety is healthy, because it is designed to help motivate you to read and study the material. It is unreasonable to expect to go through life free of anxiety, and doing so will limit your success in school, life, and work.

My point is this: The term "anxiety" has been bandied about so much with this generation that they can no longer differentiate between pathological anxiety and normal anxiety. It has, in effect, lost its meaning in the culture, and it is causing unforeseen problems, including a generation of young adults with unrealistic expectations of life, an inability to problem-solve effectively, and a passive, defeatist attitude in the face of life's challenges.

I think the same is true of many terms today, among them being sexual assault. Are there legitimate cases of sexual assault? Yes. Should they be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? Of course. But there is a difference between sexual assault and "I went too far on my date last night and now I regret it" or "I don't like the way this individual looked at me or spoke to me, therefore I was sexually assaulted" or, in Ms. Ford's case "I woke up and realized that I am a middle-aged woman who is unhappy with her life, and I need somebody to blame for it".

It has gotten ridiculous and dangerous, and in the long term, the words will lose their original meaning in the culture. The fact that we are giving so much attention to unfounded, unsubstantiated claims as a means to a political end should frighten any thinking person.

[seahawk]

How very Elizabeth Loftus like. Online quizzes are equivalent to fearing if the male assaulting one is a Ted Bundy or just your average college date rapist--got it.

Teaching female college students ways that they can avoid sexual assault might be helpful, but one would have to believe women to be able to do that, instead of rationalizing why males really don't assault young women. One that might seem obvious, but most female students wouldn't think of is simply to vomit on oneself.

I know of a young teen who saved herself from an Elizabeth Loftus "nice guy" serial rapist by doing just that. And she hadn't even been drinking beer.

[HouseDivided]

Ooooookay. I went against my better judgment and tried to reason with you and got what I should have expected in return.

Back on ignore you go.

[japhy]

Actually, you proved mine. White male wingers approve when women or people of color are called by historical labels and disparage those who disagree with that kind of smearing. Just wondered if the same white males would be bothered when historical terms for their racial/gender group were applied to them.

That you replied....

I woke up and realized that I am a middle-aged woman who is unhappy with her life, and I need somebody to blame for it".

It has gotten ridiculous and dangerous, and in the long term, the words will lose their original meaning in the culture. The fact that we are giving so much attention to unfounded, unsubstantiated claims as a means to a political end should frighten any thinking person.

Fixed it for you....I woke up and realized that I am a middle-aged man who is unhappy with his life, and I need somebody to blame for it.

It has gotten ridiculous and dangerous, and in the long term, the white men will lose their original standing in the culture. The fact that we are giving so much attention to undeserving, unentitled claims as a means to a political end should frighten any conspiratorial thinking person.

Seems like the trump voter manifesto you got there now.

[HouseDivided]

Actually, you proved mine. White male wingers approve when women or people of color are called by historical labels and disparage those who disagree with that kind of smearing. Just wondered if the same white males would be bothered when historical terms for their racial/gender group were applied to them.

That you replied....

I woke up and realized that I am a middle-aged woman who is unhappy with her life, and I need somebody to blame for it".

It has gotten ridiculous and dangerous, and in the long term, the words will lose their original meaning in the culture. The fact that we are giving so much attention to unfounded, unsubstantiated claims as a means to a political end should frighten any thinking person.

Fixed it for you....I woke up and realized that I am a middle-aged man who is unhappy with his life, and I need somebody to blame for it.

It has gotten ridiculous and dangerous, and in the long term, the white men will lose their original standing in the culture. The fact that we are giving so much attention to undeserving, unentitled claims as a means to a political end should frighten any conspiratorial thinking person.

Seems like the trump voter manifesto you got there now.

I'm doing great, thanks. Your "fix" doesn't really work, but if it makes you feel clever, I'm sure it was well worth the time and effort you invested in it.

[Deleted User 104]

The democrats are eventually going to need to distance themselves from these race-obsessed people who think all whites are privileged, as well as distancing themselves from the feminists and the idea that "women are oppressed in America". Most voters can see through the bullshit of these complaints, and they need to focus on the real issues.

Again with the word "all". There's no need to overdramatize. But there is no debating that more white children start life at an inherent advantage.

% of children in single parent families by race as of 2016
Black: 66%
White: 24%

% of kids 18 or under in households with parent(s) max education level at high school or less:

Black: 36%
White: 18%

% of kids in homes that are low income/poor/deep poverty:
Black: 61%/34%/17%
White: 28%/12%/5%

This isnt some big myth. Being born as a white man to the parents of 2 college educated middle class earners did provide me with advantages that many people of color in this country simply did not have.

Some kids are doomed from Day One due to no fault of their own. Maybe you have no empathy for those less fortunate but I prefer to try to support platforms that make an effort to help those folks.

The problem with even using the word privilege is that it's always used against whites. The reality is, everyone living in America is privileged compared to other parts of the world. BTW, whites are not the most privileged group in America. Asians have been denied entrance into universities like Harvard so that more Hispanics and Blacks could be admitted in. Yet we don't hear people talking about Asian privilege -- why is that? There's plenty of rednecks in the south that are white and far from privileged. Speaking from my own life, I had some setbacks that made me less privileged than many blacks. We do not all start from the same line -- I get that. How we choose to deal with that is up to us, and it should not be blamed on other races for "holding us back", as we all know that's a bunch of bullshit.

Then there's the problem that blacks do create most of the crime. The 13% creates 90% or whatever it is. Some idiots out there actually claim it's a biological intelligence thing. Those people are the real racists, and I regard them as idiots. I believe blacks are holding themselves back due to attitude and not rejecting bad subcultures they create. Check out Candice Owens if you want to hear a refreshingly different story from a black woman who became successful is trying to help other blacks. The fact is, blacks that live in America have way more opportunity than they would in Africa (for most of them). It's ironic that people are criticizing the US for holding these races back, when we've done the most for offering an equal opportunity (I didn't say equal outcome).

[twocoach]

You need to learn the use of words like "few", "some" and "many". It would reduce the need of others to argue against your broad brush stereotyping.

And dont be afraid of a paragraph break from time to time, either.

And again, the goal isnt to be better than some third world african nations. Arguing that "hey, you're better off here than in Africa" is absurd.

[Deleted User 104]

You criticize my writing style. Perhaps it was because I was held back by whites when I was younger? When you cannot make an argument, I'll assume that means you agree with me.

[twocoach]

No, its because it will take me a half hour to read through that giant text block on my phone.

[Deleted User 104]

Laziness, or perhaps you know deep down, my statements are true.