Kansas Crimson

“The cancellation of the college basketball postseason is an unprecedented situation,” the NABC said in a statement released Monday. “The NABC National Championship Trophy has historically been awarded to the winner of the national championship game as the No. 1 team in the season’s final coaches poll. Consistent with the history of the trophy and with no on-court champion being determined this season, the NABC will not award a trophy.”

Meh.
Missouri.

Founded by Phog, no? Betrayed their roots.

I’m ok with awarding no championship. It makes sense on enough levels.

If it was any other school, I wouldn’t want to see a championship awarded, and wouldn’t take the award seriously if it was.

But then again, the only way I could see a champion recognized this year is if it was either some Cinderella story with some universal feel-good angle so powerful and appreciable that it transcends the situation, or Duke.

I said earlier the fact that Kansas would be the champ would halt Mike Brey from letting nabc award a trophy. Sanctimony.

you all are crazy if you think a random tournament definitively determines a national champion, one where the best team rarely wins and the winner never has to play the other best teams in the nation. the tournament is fun and crazy, but helms titles are at least equally credible.

I don't think hoopla is wrong.

Helms are absolute bull, but other schools also recognize them. Just wish we'd differentiate between the NCAA Championships and the Helms garbage, but there is too much of an inferiority complex amongst the fanbase with only 3 championships to lay claim to.

hoopla wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:27 am you all are crazy if you think a random tournament definitively determines a national champion, one where the best team rarely wins and the winner never has to play the other best teams in the nation. the tournament is fun and crazy, but helms titles are at least equally credible.

Preach it!

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:04 am Helms are absolute bull, but other schools also recognize them. Just wish we'd differentiate between the NCAA Championships and the Helms garbage, but there is too much of an inferiority complex amongst the fanbase with only 3 championships to lay claim to.

So teams that were good, prior to the introduction of the NCAA tournament shouldn't be recognized for their accomplishments? They are just as credible, in my opinion, especially given that winning the tournament is really a coin flip. Just my opinion though...

punkrockhawk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:21 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:04 am Helms are absolute bull, but other schools also recognize them. Just wish we'd differentiate between the NCAA Championships and the Helms garbage, but there is too much of an inferiority complex amongst the fanbase with only 3 championships to lay claim to.

So teams that were good, prior to the introduction of the NCAA tournament shouldn't be recognized for their accomplishments? They are just as credible, in my opinion, especially given that winning the tournament is really a coin flip. Just my opinion though...

If a team accomplished a championship, then by all means, it should be recognized. The 1922 and 23 teams won games but did not play for any mythical or real championship. Helms Foundation was not founded until 1936. The idea of a national championship did not exist in 1922 or 23.

The NCAA are simply a tournament. The regular season is simply a longer tournament. But the regular season provided metrics that showed KU was clearly the best team. And it wasn't close. When the NCAA is dismantled, Allen's idea to generate money and interest will flow to another method. The Helms trophies were based on actual performance, even if conferred later. Kansas has been the best team in CBB for a generation and has one a single single-elimination tournament, but would have won many play-off games. So, hang the only banner they can't control in 2019-20, consensus #1. (An asterisk should say no champion because it was KU). Everything that happened since the last game of the season is designed to hobble the juggernaut.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:28 pm

punkrockhawk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:21 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:04 am Helms are absolute bull, but other schools also recognize them. Just wish we'd differentiate between the NCAA Championships and the Helms garbage, but there is too much of an inferiority complex amongst the fanbase with only 3 championships to lay claim to.

So teams that were good, prior to the introduction of the NCAA tournament shouldn't be recognized for their accomplishments? They are just as credible, in my opinion, especially given that winning the tournament is really a coin flip. Just my opinion though...

If a team accomplished a championship, then by all means, it should be recognized. The 1922 and 23 teams won games but did not play for any mythical or real championship. Helms Foundation was not founded until 1936. The idea of a national championship did not exist in 1922 or 23.

Good point. I had forgotten that Helms wasn't founded until later.

Dok should be having dinner with his mother, celebrating their national semifinal win right now.

Freaking coronavirus.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:40 pm Dok should be having dinner with his mother, celebrating their national semifinal win right now.

Freaking NCAA.

FyP

How about this, but with the 2019-2020 rosters. As the 2019-2020 championship.