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[Deleted User 89]

Why do the anti-facists act like facists?

How so

https://reason.com/2017/08/22/choose-si ... -and-fasc/

Take a side? You bet. But Haider and company are trying to force a false choice. They'd have you believe that advocates of free speech, open society, tolerance, and peaceful political change have to pick between fascists with tiki torches and masked "anti-fascists" clashing with them in the streets. But advocates of a free, open, and liberal society are a side—the correct side—and the left-wing and right-wing thugs battling in the streets are nothing more than rival siblings from a dysfunctional illiberal family.

In June, James Hodgkinson opened fire on Republican members of Congress gathered for a baseball practice. That the supporter of Occupy Wall Street and former Bernie Sanders volunteer sent six people, including Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA), to the hospital instead of the morgue was a consequence not of better intentions than his soulmate, Fields, but rather a result of fortunately bad aim.

Before that, left-wing protesters violently shut down a Middlebury College speech by Charles Murray, injuring Professor Alison Stanger in the process, rioted over a speech by professional provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos, and forced the cancellation of a Republican parade in Portland, Oregon, with promises that "the police cannot stop us from shutting down roads." They boast of their contempt for free speech.

Right-wing and left-wing mobs seem to have a few preferred Thunderdome venues where they set up regular fight-club dates. "For reasons political and geographic, Berkeley has become a particularly common battleground," reports the Los Angeles Times. "They will glom themselves onto a tax day rally, a Trump rally, but there is a subgroup of extremists on both sides who are angling for a street battle," said criminal sociologist Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at Cal State San Bernardino.

in your own words, what does “antifa” do that is fascist

[Deleted User 310]

How so

https://reason.com/2017/08/22/choose-si ... -and-fasc/

Take a side? You bet. But Haider and company are trying to force a false choice. They'd have you believe that advocates of free speech, open society, tolerance, and peaceful political change have to pick between fascists with tiki torches and masked "anti-fascists" clashing with them in the streets. But advocates of a free, open, and liberal society are a side—the correct side—and the left-wing and right-wing thugs battling in the streets are nothing more than rival siblings from a dysfunctional illiberal family.

In June, James Hodgkinson opened fire on Republican members of Congress gathered for a baseball practice. That the supporter of Occupy Wall Street and former Bernie Sanders volunteer sent six people, including Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA), to the hospital instead of the morgue was a consequence not of better intentions than his soulmate, Fields, but rather a result of fortunately bad aim.

Before that, left-wing protesters violently shut down a Middlebury College speech by Charles Murray, injuring Professor Alison Stanger in the process, rioted over a speech by professional provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos, and forced the cancellation of a Republican parade in Portland, Oregon, with promises that "the police cannot stop us from shutting down roads." They boast of their contempt for free speech.

Right-wing and left-wing mobs seem to have a few preferred Thunderdome venues where they set up regular fight-club dates. "For reasons political and geographic, Berkeley has become a particularly common battleground," reports the Los Angeles Times. "They will glom themselves onto a tax day rally, a Trump rally, but there is a subgroup of extremists on both sides who are angling for a street battle," said criminal sociologist Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at Cal State San Bernardino.

in your own words, what does “antifa” do that is fascist

Violence. Intolerance. Censorship.

Those are things facists do, or what facists act like.

Not to mention there is no facism in the United States. Not even remotely close. They aren't anti facists, they are anti trump.

[Deleted User 89]

what do they do those things in the name of? to what ends are their actions directed?

[Deleted User 289]

https://reason.com/2017/08/22/choose-si ... -and-fasc/

Take a side? You bet. But Haider and company are trying to force a false choice. They'd have you believe that advocates of free speech, open society, tolerance, and peaceful political change have to pick between fascists with tiki torches and masked "anti-fascists" clashing with them in the streets. But advocates of a free, open, and liberal society are a side—the correct side—and the left-wing and right-wing thugs battling in the streets are nothing more than rival siblings from a dysfunctional illiberal family.

In June, James Hodgkinson opened fire on Republican members of Congress gathered for a baseball practice. That the supporter of Occupy Wall Street and former Bernie Sanders volunteer sent six people, including Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA), to the hospital instead of the morgue was a consequence not of better intentions than his soulmate, Fields, but rather a result of fortunately bad aim.

Before that, left-wing protesters violently shut down a Middlebury College speech by Charles Murray, injuring Professor Alison Stanger in the process, rioted over a speech by professional provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos, and forced the cancellation of a Republican parade in Portland, Oregon, with promises that "the police cannot stop us from shutting down roads." They boast of their contempt for free speech.

Right-wing and left-wing mobs seem to have a few preferred Thunderdome venues where they set up regular fight-club dates. "For reasons political and geographic, Berkeley has become a particularly common battleground," reports the Los Angeles Times. "They will glom themselves onto a tax day rally, a Trump rally, but there is a subgroup of extremists on both sides who are angling for a street battle," said criminal sociologist Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at Cal State San Bernardino.

in your own words, what does “antifa” do that is fascist

Violence. Intolerance. Censorship.

Those are things facists do, or what facists act like.

Not to mention there is no facism in the United States. Not even remotely close. They aren't anti facists, they are anti trump.

You say the things Antifa does that are fascist are are Violence. Intolerance. Censorship.
Then you say "there is no facism in the United States".

Ok, I criticized you for not understanding me.
Now it's fair if you criticize me for not understanding you.

[Deleted User 310]

in your own words, what does “antifa” do that is fascist

Violence. Intolerance. Censorship.

Those are things facists do, or what facists act like.

Not to mention there is no facism in the United States. Not even remotely close. They aren't anti facists, they are anti trump.

You say the things Antifa does that are fascist are are Violence. Intolerance. Censorship.
Then you say "there is no facism in the United States".

Ok, I criticized you for not understanding me.
Now it's fair if you criticize me for not understanding you.

No, i said they "act like facists". Meaning they use similar tactics that facists have used throughout history.

[Deleted User 310]

what do they do those things in the name of? to what ends are their actions directed?

To push their political agenda?

[sdoyel]

https://www.vice.com/en/article/epdxze/ ... c-got-ugly

I’ll just never understand the bull testacle dangling from the tow hitch Trumpers.

It’s just bizarre.

A cult.

[sdoyel]

Why do the anti-facists act like facists?

God damn dude.

[sdoyel]

[Deleted User 89]

what do they do those things in the name of? to what ends are their actions directed?

To push their political agenda?

extreme, far-right authoritarionism?

[Deleted User 310]

what do they do those things in the name of? to what ends are their actions directed?

To push their political agenda?

extreme, far-right authoritarionism?

"Act like"

How about extreme far-left authoritarianism?

[Deleted User 89]

lol, ok

[Mjl]

Violence. Intolerance. Censorship.

Those are things facists do, or what facists act like.

Not to mention there is no facism in the United States. Not even remotely close. They aren't anti facists, they are anti trump.

You say the things Antifa does that are fascist are are Violence. Intolerance. Censorship.
Then you say "there is no facism in the United States".

Ok, I criticized you for not understanding me.
Now it's fair if you criticize me for not understanding you.

No, i said they "act like facists". Meaning they use similar tactics that facists have used throughout history.

You realize that is the epitome of a logical fallacy... Right?

[Deleted User 310]

No it's not

[Mjl]

No it's not

Most obvious is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence, which this is the absolute epitome of. But it touches on other fallacies as well

[Deleted User 310]

[Mjl]

Ok, last try.

The thing that makes fascism fascism is a central, singular authoritarian head of state. People protesting, violent or peaceful, by their very nature are not in power, and are not central nor singular.

Your statement is equivalent to "Hitler loved his dog, and mjl loves his dog, therefore mjl is acting like Hitler".

[ousdahl]

No it's not

Vintage, vintage illy.

The 50s diner of illy posts.

With the juke box and milkshakes the chevys turned into booths and everything!

So much so that I’m tempted to make it my sig. it’s that classic.

[Deleted User 310]

Ok, last try.

The thing that makes fascism fascism is a central, singular authoritarian head of state. People protesting, violent or peaceful, by their very nature are not in power, and are not central nor singular.

Your statement is equivalent to "Hitler loved his dog, and mjl loves his dog, therefore mjl is acting like Hitler".

People who push their political agenda thru violence censorship intolerance and intimidation are ACTING like facists.

That's a little different than saying 2 people like dogs so those people are the same....that may actually be a logical fallacy itself (straw man or maybe a red herring?).

Last try. I don't care whether you agree or not fwiw. No big deal. Nobody is changing anybody's mind around here anyway.

[twocoach]

Followed by 2 more pages of arguments filled with incorrect statements, illogical assumptions and critical reading failures in an attempt to show us just how much you dont care...