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Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:06 pm
by jfish26
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:57 pm How quickly we went from, “we have to vote for Biden cuz we need to stop Trump!”, to “ok so maybe Biden going for Trump-style immigration policies like IS “improving the lives and livelihoods of Americans”
I think you're painting with WAY too broad of a brush there.

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:27 pm
by Overlander
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:57 pm How quickly we went from, “we have to vote for Biden cuz we need to stop Trump!”, to “ok so maybe Biden going for Trump-style immigration policies like IS “improving the lives and livelihoods of Americans”
Both are increasingly important.

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:40 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:57 pm How quickly we went from, “we have to vote for Biden cuz we need to stop Trump!”, to “ok so maybe Biden going for Trump-style immigration policies like IS “improving the lives and livelihoods of Americans”
How quickly you type things out that you don't really think about much.

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:03 pm
by Shirley
twocoach wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:40 pm
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:57 pm How quickly we went from, “we have to vote for Biden cuz we need to stop Trump!”, to “ok so maybe Biden going for Trump-style immigration policies like IS “improving the lives and livelihoods of Americans”
How quickly you type things out that you don't really think about much.
Oh, I thought you were referring to this post:
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:36 am I think we’ve discussed this, but -

What does Biden, or dems at large, have to gain from a right turn on border policy?

It seems less likely to win over any pubs, and more likely to just alienate dems

At least the like 6 dems left whose ideology is still something more than, “vote blue no matter who”
Is he totally unaware of the drama house Republicans have been creating for months holding aid for Ukraine hostage unless Democrats agree to a Republican inspired border agreement? And then reneging on the demand?

And if he is and asks that ? nonetheless.......?

What am I missing?

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:10 pm
by DeletedUser
I am surprised you guys are still playing this game.

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:34 pm
by DCHawk1
DeletedUser wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:10 pm I am surprised you guys are still playing this game.
Why?

It's as much for them as him.

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:22 pm
by ousdahl
Shirley wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:03 pm
twocoach wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:40 pm
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:57 pm How quickly we went from, “we have to vote for Biden cuz we need to stop Trump!”, to “ok so maybe Biden going for Trump-style immigration policies like IS “improving the lives and livelihoods of Americans”
How quickly you type things out that you don't really think about much.
Oh, I thought you were referring to this post:
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:36 am I think we’ve discussed this, but -

What does Biden, or dems at large, have to gain from a right turn on border policy?

It seems less likely to win over any pubs, and more likely to just alienate dems

At least the like 6 dems left whose ideology is still something more than, “vote blue no matter who”
Is he totally unaware of the drama house Republicans have been creating for months holding aid for Ukraine hostage unless Democrats agree to a Republican inspired border agreement? And then reneging on the demand?

And if he is and asks that ? nonetheless.......?

What am I missing?
So dems are willing to get more draconian on immigration policy, if pubs are willing to get more hawkish on foreign policy.

What a time to be alive

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:45 pm
by Shirley
If having a real border and defending a fledgling democracy from invasion by our adversary while modernizing our own military and spreading ~ 70% of the assistance to American co.s is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:31 pm
by DCHawk1
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:22 pm
Shirley wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:03 pm
twocoach wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:40 pm

How quickly you type things out that you don't really think about much.
Oh, I thought you were referring to this post:
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:36 am I think we’ve discussed this, but -

What does Biden, or dems at large, have to gain from a right turn on border policy?

It seems less likely to win over any pubs, and more likely to just alienate dems

At least the like 6 dems left whose ideology is still something more than, “vote blue no matter who”
Is he totally unaware of the drama house Republicans have been creating for months holding aid for Ukraine hostage unless Democrats agree to a Republican inspired border agreement? And then reneging on the demand?

And if he is and asks that ? nonetheless.......?

What am I missing?
So dems are willing to get more draconian on immigration policy, if pubs are willing to get more hawkish on foreign policy.

What a time to be alive
The parties are both hollowed-out carcasses. Everyone here knows that about the GOP. They remain unwilling to see it about the other guys.

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:38 pm
by ousdahl
Well said, Qusdahl.

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 9:39 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:22 pm
Shirley wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:03 pm
twocoach wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:40 pm

How quickly you type things out that you don't really think about much.
Oh, I thought you were referring to this post:
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:36 am I think we’ve discussed this, but -

What does Biden, or dems at large, have to gain from a right turn on border policy?

It seems less likely to win over any pubs, and more likely to just alienate dems

At least the like 6 dems left whose ideology is still something more than, “vote blue no matter who”
Is he totally unaware of the drama house Republicans have been creating for months holding aid for Ukraine hostage unless Democrats agree to a Republican inspired border agreement? And then reneging on the demand?

And if he is and asks that ? nonetheless.......?

What am I missing?
So dems are willing to get more draconian on immigration policy, if pubs are willing to get more hawkish on foreign policy.

What a time to be alive
"More draconian"? Don't be a drama queen.

We need to make some adjustments to to the way things work at the border. That isn't Draconian. That is just common sense. You bitch and whine that no one has conversations but all you're doing is shooting zippy one liners. Grow up.

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:25 am
by KUTradition
you new here?

:lol:

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:03 am
by TDub
I think he's doin the dice thing too much

It's pretty much all he's got

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:14 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:45 pm
by Sparko
Because it isn't true? The Russians have been just spewing border lies. And secrssion of Texas bullshot. Be on guard. Trump is on his last legs and Putin went all in, as in every spare tank and BMP in Ukraine.

The border is pretty quiet actually. I live down here. There were surges that corresponded with the holidays. But we never talk about the folks going back south. And guns are a problem everywhere. Lucky we don't get patted down in supermarkets because of all the good guys.

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:06 pm
by DCHawk1
Sparko wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:45 pm Because it isn't true? The Russians have been just spewing border lies. And secrssion of Texas bullshot. Be on guard. Trump is on his last legs and Putin went all in, as in every spare tank and BMP in Ukraine.

The border is pretty quiet actually. I live down here. There were surges that corresponded with the holidays. But we never talk about the folks going back south. And guns are a problem everywhere. Lucky we don't get patted down in supermarkets because of all the good guys.
Ho. Lee. Fuck.

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:47 pm
by KUTradition
my favorite is the hair-on-fire response to the slaying of Laken Riley from so many on the right, yet gun violence becomes the leading cause of death of American children and we get nothing

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:56 am
by Sparko
DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:06 pm
Sparko wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:45 pm Because it isn't true? The Russians have been just spewing border lies. And secession of Texas bull. Be on guard. Trump is on his last legs and Putin went all in, as in every spare tank and BMP in Ukraine.

The border is pretty quiet actually. I live down here. There were surges that corresponded with the holidays. But we never talk about the folks going back south. And guns are a problem everywhere. Lucky we don't get patted down in supermarkets because of all the good guys.
Ho. Lee. Fuck.
"The stuff the GOP won't fix is Biden's fault." RT

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:42 am
by DCHawk1
Sparko wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:56 am
DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:06 pm
Sparko wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:45 pm Because it isn't true? The Russians have been just spewing border lies. And secession of Texas bull. Be on guard. Trump is on his last legs and Putin went all in, as in every spare tank and BMP in Ukraine.

The border is pretty quiet actually. I live down here. There were surges that corresponded with the holidays. But we never talk about the folks going back south. And guns are a problem everywhere. Lucky we don't get patted down in supermarkets because of all the good guys.
Ho. Lee. Fuck.
"The stuff the GOP won't fix is Biden's fault." RT
Yeah. That's the issue w/your post.

Re: What happened to the immigration thread?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:52 pm
by Sparko