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Nothing about whether they were the two best candidates. And they were. Goff has been methodical.

We have to let this play out. Personally, if he wasn’t so old, I would go back to Glen Mason. I enjoyed how he weeded out stragglers by making the team run up the hill in front of The Wheel while I gulped stale Coors sitting on its porch. I loved how, after getting drubbed by UNL at home (I think it was 63-0) on a cold, rainy afternoon, Coach Mason proclaimed to Max post-game that his favorite player was Peda Samuel, a 5’6” cornerback that weighed 150 pounds. His reasoning was how hard he played. Samuel was grabbing the back of the jersey of one of Nebraska’s steroid fueled running backs as the opponent was running for a long touchdown. It was like watching a water skier on that wet, old Astro-Turf field. I was there.

We need a coach like that. Can kids this day and age take that type of coaching?

So is today the day or nah...?

hartjack8 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:32 am

Sparko wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:36 pm

hartjack8 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:37 pm I have to admit that I didn't think we paid Les that much and I think I was talking about Monken's cousin not his brother.

Kind of early to melt down though

I have been melting down since the MAGIC man got fired. Did not pay that much attention to Gill getting hired but since then I have been like WTF we can not be that stupid. Everyone in the world knew that no one was hiring Fat boy Charlie or Wheel Chair Les. But we did. Beaty was what you get for 800K, who you getting for 800K nobody, which is about the same as Beaty. Fat boy Charlie put KU football program six feet under the ground and then Beaty showed up with dump trucks of gravel and poured them on the grave making sure the resurrection would be that much harder.

I am telling you right now if Goff walked through the door and said I found my coach and it's Div 3 Leipold or TO Monken it would be a hard conversation. First off WTF did we hire you when we could have got those two without you so obviously we do not need you. I recommend you call NW and see if you can get your old job back cause you are done here.

I am with you on neither Monken or Leipold knocking my socks off, but for the reasons you stated (and more), that's just kind of what the job is right now. If there is an AD out there that could deliver KU's savior, he's not walking through KU's door.

We are literally in a position where running the athletic department professionally and having a fraction of competence within and towards the football program is a step forward.

I am not close to 100% sold on either Goff or Monken, but the sad truth is that they are among if not the very best candidates KUAI can get right now, which is a far cry from where we were at circa 2005-08ish.

Outside of mens basketball we have a very low bar for success. Just don't hire Beaty or Gill 2.0 and 98% of the fan base will be ecstatic.

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:43 am So is today the day or nah...?

Maybe..? I still believe all signs point to Monken, they could wait for a bit, I guess. But I think Monken will be in Lawrence very soon and even though an announcement could be delayed, he could be already beginning unofficially watching the program.

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:34 am Outside of mens basketball we have a very low bar for success. Just don't hire Beaty or Gill 2.0 and 98% of the fan base will be ecstatic.

Funny.

To me Weis was the worst hire, by a long margin.

We won't really know how good or bad Les was until we see what the next coach does in his first 3 or 4 years.

Lew Perkins started a grass fire next to a forest. A capable fireman named Jim was ready to come put it out, but Lew wanted it done his way. So, after being shot down he hired an apprentice fireman that hadn't proven he could handle a fire. Being ill equipped to handle, the fire spread to the forest and the fire was on.

New fireman that was capable in a niche environment but never chief material came in and was so arrogant and lazy that he allowed gasoline and dried wood to be dumped onto the fire and the entire forest was engulfed.

Next guy, not a fireman but had seen a fire before, brought a squirt gun to put the fire out.

Then hired a retired fireman that had previously put out one of the biggest forest fires we've seen. He appeared to contain the fire in his short time before getting canned for lying about creeping on coeds (there is no analogy for that shit).

Will the new fireman with a century-old method of putting out fires be able to contain?

He didn't appear to contain the fire in my opinion.
He looked like he was so out of the fire game that he tried eating the grass because it worked at the last place.

Coniferous reforestation had begun when Smokey was carted off.

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:09 am He didn't appear to contain the fire in my opinion.
He looked like he was so out of the fire game that he tried eating the grass because it worked at the last place.

No, but he and the fire chief hired a bunch of guys who were good at analyzing and making videos of hanging hoses and swinging axes. Which we have been told we were in desperate need of.

And he may have hired a few good firemen recruits, but time will tell.

I do think Miles hired the most competent staff we've had here since the Mangino days (not saying much), and don't think there is very convincing argument against that.

He also has appeared to have been on the right track or even delivered on Beaty's main job to get real FBS commits into the program. But, agreed that full grade on that comes in a few years.

It was dumb of us to not have all the staff positions we should have. But we made a pretty big deal out of bringing in analysts, etc. And, while beneficial, I don't think those are the types of moves that translate into wins...and certainly haven't yet.

If there are nine trees on fire and you can't manage to put out even one, and in the fire extinguishing process you kept trying the same thing and mismanaging your equipment over and over, i'm sorry, you might be good at hiring recruits, but you yourself are not a good fireman.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:41 am It was dumb of us to not have all the staff positions we should have. But we made a pretty big deal out of bringing in analysts, etc. And, while beneficial, I don't think those are the types of moves that translate into wins...and certainly haven't yet.

I don't think that was an "if you build it, they will come" move. Wasn't to me, anyway.

I know it's har-de-har to say KU should shut down the FB program, but in reality, the opposite is needed. It was a necessary shift of the overall attitude toward the program. If a big business had a vital, indispensable arm that was struggling mightily, they'd throw the money at it until it improved. Long, for all his faults, did recognize that need.

Flagged for too many men on a metaphor.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:54 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:41 am It was dumb of us to not have all the staff positions we should have. But we made a pretty big deal out of bringing in analysts, etc. And, while beneficial, I don't think those are the types of moves that translate into wins...and certainly haven't yet.

I don't think that was an "if you build it, they will come" move. Wasn't to me, anyway.

I know it's har-de-har to say KU should shut down the FB program, but in reality, the opposite is needed. It was a necessary shift of the overall attitude toward the program. If a big business had a vital, indispensable arm that was struggling mightily, they'd throw the money at it until it improved. Long, for all his faults, did recognize that need.

Right, but it's like spending money on reparing a leak in your basement vs. getting new cabinets and countertops in the kitchen.

You don't really get to see an improvement or have anything to show for fixing the leak, but it needed to get done.

We still have a kitchen that needs upgraded and fixing the basement, while necessary, does nothing for our kitchen.

It keeps our kitchen from falling into the basement however. And that is something.

No one every compliments you after spending 5 figures on foundation repair.

I need some fucking compliments.