Kansas Crimson

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:30 am Someone tell me again about how choosing to not vaccinate affects only yourself:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/26/us/covid ... index.html

"What we are seeing is just a tremendous amount of patients coming in. The other day, our emergency room had a 12-hour wait. Almost every hospital in the city is on diversion, meaning they don't have room to take transfer patients," Paryani said. "Patients who need complex care simply can't access it. This kind of strain is something we've never seen before."

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:51 am My biggest take away is we desperately need a political reform. We need a third people to get more support. Can't keep electing politicians that are going to use and manipulate real world situations to this degree. Covid become so tied into the elections and over politicized that a lot of Americans are just like what the fuck. Can't take an honest open minded look at the situation

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:49 am I suppose we need to differentiate between anti-vax generally, and anti-Covid-vax.

I think LEO skews right. And anti-Covid-vax is absolutely a right-wing thing.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:49 am I suppose we need to differentiate between anti-vax generally, I and anti-Covid-vax.

I think LEO skews right. And anti-Covid-vax is absolutely a right-wing thing.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:49 am I suppose we need to differentiate between anti-vax generally, and anti-Covid-vax.

I think LEO skews right. And anti-Covid-vax is absolutely a right-wing thing.

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:52 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:49 am I suppose we need to differentiate between anti-vax generally, I and anti-Covid-vax.

I think LEO skews right. And anti-Covid-vax is absolutely a right-wing thing.

Somewhat related, when did the alt-right just become the right? Like 2017 I guess?

But yeah, I think law enforcement skewing right is more because a lot of law enforcement are are white males from 25-45, and machismo is a feature and not a bug. I don’t think LEO, in of itself is a conservative type job (I mean it’s public service for Pete’s sake), but those who go into the profession tend to have a type

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:52 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:49 am I suppose we need to differentiate between anti-vax generally, I and anti-Covid-vax.

I think LEO skews right. And anti-Covid-vax is absolutely a right-wing thing.

Somewhat related, when did the alt-right just become the right? Like 2017 I guess?

But yeah, I think law enforcement skewing right is more because a lot of law enforcement are are white males from 25-45, and machismo is a feature and not a bug. I don’t think LEO, in of itself is a conservative type job (I mean it’s public service for Pete’s sake), but those who go into the profession tend to have a type

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:26 amAgain, proportionately, black/hispanic people are less vaccinated than other races...do we want even less of those types of officers in their communities? I certainly don't think their communities want less minority officers.

Indirect impacts have to be considered.

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:52 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:49 am I suppose we need to differentiate between anti-vax generally, I and anti-Covid-vax.

I think LEO skews right. And anti-Covid-vax is absolutely a right-wing thing.

Somewhat related, when did the alt-right just become the right? Like 2017 I guess?

But yeah, I think law enforcement skewing right is more because a lot of law enforcement are are white males from 25-45, and machismo is a feature and not a bug. I don’t think LEO, in of itself is a conservative type job (I mean it’s public service for Pete’s sake), but those who go into the profession tend to have a type

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:12 am

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:52 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:49 am I suppose we need to differentiate between anti-vax generally, I and anti-Covid-vax.

I think LEO skews right. And anti-Covid-vax is absolutely a right-wing thing.

Somewhat related, when did the alt-right just become the right? Like 2017 I guess?

But yeah, I think law enforcement skewing right is more because a lot of law enforcement are are white males from 25-45, and machismo is a feature and not a bug. I don’t think LEO, in of itself is a conservative type job (I mean it’s public service for Pete’s sake), but those who go into the profession tend to have a type

I also think we tend to think of LEO as untrained city cops. When in reality LEO consists of so many more things. DEA FBI ATF. Those guys aren't mostly uneducated. They're well trained. Most with college degrees. I think they're more diverse politically than what we generally think when we're envisioning HS degree JoBob on a power trip as a city cop....even though there are plenty of those too.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:23 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:12 am

dub needs a codpiece wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:52 am


Somewhat related, when did the alt-right just become the right? Like 2017 I guess?

But yeah, I think law enforcement skewing right is more because a lot of law enforcement are are white males from 25-45, and machismo is a feature and not a bug. I don’t think LEO, in of itself is a conservative type job (I mean it’s public service for Pete’s sake), but those who go into the profession tend to have a type

I also think we tend to think of LEO as untrained city cops. When in reality LEO consists of so many more things. DEA FBI ATF. Those guys aren't mostly uneducated. They're well trained. Most with college degrees. I think they're more diverse politically than what we generally think when we're envisioning HS degree JoBob on a power trip as a city cop....even though there are plenty of those too.

Anecdotal, but I play a lot of golf with a US marshal. Highly educated (well, UK), lives in a very nice house, good husband/dad etc.

Red as red could be, and I gather that's pretty standard in his work circle.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:22 am I think the context, though, was the street level guys. And then look at the opposite voting endorsements the police unions have compared to other labor unions.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:27 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:22 am I think the context, though, was the street level guys. And then look at the opposite voting endorsements the police unions have compared to other labor unions.

I get it. But i also don't always feel cops are as inherently bad as some do around here. I think the very few bad ones really fuck it up for the good ones.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:28 am I haven't asked. I know his chiropractor wife is not vaxxed.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:31 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:28 am I haven't asked. I know his chiropractor wife is not vaxxed.

Probably a good indicator.

All the chiropractors i know are weird.