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Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:16 pm
by TDub
chiknbut wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:37 pm
TDub wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:35 am Any advice for people who would rather do fsbo properties? I cant stand dealing with real estate agents. No offense chickn, I'm sure some of them are terrific, but the vast majority I've come in contact with are pretty terrible and will say anything to get their piece of the pie. I've found one guy who I think is pretty dang good but still seems like I should be able to do most of this stuff myself.
None taken. I've chosen a profession filled with scumbags and idiots. Well aware of that.

FSBO is tough. I get that you don't want to pay 2.5 percent, that's normal. Believe me, I deal with that every single day.

But in the end, a house sells because the market deems its price to be correct. It has nothing to do with home owners or realtors. Most FSBO's I've dealt with are horribly over-priced to begin with. Doesn't matter if you think your house is worth $425,000 if a similar house down the block sold for $400,000.

As I wrote before, most home owners believe their house is worth more than it is. And these people get really frustrated that they can't sell their homes. Has nothing to do with the realtor who is really only there to either help set a price and sell it or help someone understand the market and put in a fair offer.

My biggest obstacle right now is a softening luxury market. I have an amazing listing in a great neighborhood in one of the best school district's in Chicago. Got an offer one month into the listing and my clients didn't accept it because they thought they could get more. It's been 4 months now and no other offers. Because they waited, and because the market has softened, they'll be lucky to get under contract within $30,000 of the first offer.

One other thing: FSBO's are a key marketing demo for realtors. Mainly because they don't sell. So when the listing is cancelled, realtors sweep in and offer up the bad news with the hope of getting the listing at a more realistic price. FSBO's beat you up pretty bad, so they turn back to a realtor just to get the damn thing sold.

All good info. Thanks.

Guess it doesn't matter if you're buying with or without an agent, since the seller is usually paying the fees. But, is there an advantage to buying without an agent, negotiate a lower purchase price?

My guess is that most people are going to see 400k with 2 agents vs 390k with 1 agent and not understand that the 390 is going to net them more.

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:28 pm
by Deleted User 62
TDub wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:13 pm Boats just have always seemed like a horrific waste of money to me
I agree 100%.

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:40 am
by Deleted User 266
I'm surprised you agree 100%.
Why is it a "horrific waste of money" to purchase something that enables someone to enjoy themself on water? I think boats are awesome.
Looking around my apartment, if I wanted to get philosophical, I could say there are literally hundreds of things that were a "horrific waste of money" compared to if I owned a boat.

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:35 am
by TDub
Then go buy a boat gutter. If it makes you happy.

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:41 am
by seahawk
Chikn, in recent real estate dealings, I've encountered one scumbag and several conscientious people who've done a great job. Kudos to you for being one of the good guys in your field.

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:32 pm
by Deleted User 62
Paul1 wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:40 am I'm surprised you agree 100%.
Why is it a "horrific waste of money" to purchase something that enables someone to enjoy themself on water? I think boats are awesome.
Looking around my apartment, if I wanted to get philosophical, I could say there are literally hundreds of things that were a "horrific waste of money" compared to if I owned a boat.
They depreciate like ice cubes...require significant amounts of money to maintain...and have exceptionally high rates of failure.

Sure, I sell them for a living, but I question the judgement of any one who purchases one.

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:33 pm
by Deleted User 266
I hear you Jeeper. Bad investment/s? Hard to argue they're not.
"Horrific waste/s of money"? Maybe. I could think of a lot of worse things. Maybe not as expensive things but definitely a lot of worse things.

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:54 pm
by defixione
I would never buy a boat, but the best four months of my life were spent on a 65' ketch while sailing to Hawaii and back, from LA, in the late 70's. During the last three weeks I started noticing how much maintenance was going to be needed after our excursion; the hull had been battered and disfigured from the incessant waves, sails had torn or were starting to tear, the lines were becoming frayed, and ten days north of Kauai, on our way home, the engine blew. Because of the weather pattern it took us another 6 weeks to get back to LA.

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:07 pm
by Deleted User 89
would never buy anything more than a canoe/kayak, but i always enjoy getting to make use of friends’ bigger boats

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:35 am
by chiknbut
seahawk wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:41 am Chikn, in recent real estate dealings, I've encountered one scumbag and several conscientious people who've done a great job. Kudos to you for being one of the good guys in your field.
Thank you, Sea. I appreciate that.

Though my attempts at building a successful business by being an honest, hard-working agent isn't paying off like I had hoped. Turns out there are very few people who can tell the difference between my services and that of pretty much any other agent out there.

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:37 pm
by Shirley
chiknbut wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:35 am
seahawk wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:41 am Chikn, in recent real estate dealings, I've encountered one scumbag and several conscientious people who've done a great job. Kudos to you for being one of the good guys in your field.
Thank you, Sea. I appreciate that.

Though my attempts at building a successful business by being an honest, hard-working agent isn't paying off like I had hoped. Turns out there are very few people who can tell the difference between my services and that of pretty much any other agent out there.
Unfortunately, it's largely the same in medicine.

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:29 pm
by Shirley

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:24 am
by Shirley

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:53 am
by Shirley
Today in "Only the Best"!

Because



"stable genius"


Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:46 pm
by twocoach
Losing Bolton is a good thing. I didnt like his hiring at all. Way too hardcore.

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:48 pm
by Deleted User 266
So you would prefer a soft puss boy/girl to be our National Security Advisor. Duly noted. Perhaps Tiffany Trump is being considered?

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:40 pm
by chiknbut
Diamond and Silk. Mark my words.

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:54 pm
by Deleted User 62
chiknbut wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:40 pm Diamond and Silk. Mark my words.
LMAO.



….then, thought "oh shit"

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:14 pm
by Geezer
Jared.

Re: Today in "so much winning"!

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:36 am
by Deleted User 266
Which Jared?

Subway guy?
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or

The guy who looks more like he could be Barron's Father than Donald does?
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Maybe this Jared?
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This one might be my choice of Jareds being that he has defensive experience. Not that Donald has ever really cared about qualifications.
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If I had to guess which Jared the Donald would choose, I would probably go with this one.
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As Pompeo said regarding Trump yesterday, "I'm, I'm never surprised".