Kansas Crimson

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:03 am

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:01 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:53 am In my opinion, the fact that we have executed people who were later proven to be innocent means we should not be in the business of executing anyone at all.

I get this, and partially agree with it. There are some people, however, that absolutely do not deserve to breath the air we breath and eat the food that others can eat.

Agree 100%. But I tend to take a "better for ten guilty men to go free than one innocent man be punished at the hands of the state" view, and so I really don't have any tolerance for the state executing any innocent people.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:03 am

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:01 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:53 am In my opinion, the fact that we have executed people who were later proven to be innocent means we should not be in the business of executing anyone at all.

I get this, and partially agree with it. There are some people, however, that absolutely do not deserve to breath the air we breath and eat the food that others can eat.

Agree 100%. But I tend to take a "better for ten guilty men to go free than one innocent man be punished at the hands of the state" view, and so I really don't have any tolerance for the state executing any innocent people.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:41 pm Leave it to the GOP to respond to the mid term disaster that resulted from their attack on abortion by doubling down to go after IVF. Super smart.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:51 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:41 pm Leave it to the GOP to respond to the mid term disaster that resulted from their attack on abortion by doubling down to go after IVF. Super smart.

...only to simultaneously trip over their own dicks by changing course and loudly supporting IVF - despite the recent receipts (bill sponsors and votes) to the contrary.

This is sort of a manifestation of "can't keep your story straight."

The fundamental problem for the Rs, of course, is that getting to the post-2016-election landscape (effective control of all three branches) absolutely required anti-abortion votes and money.

What those votes and money bought, of course, was Dobbs.

And Dobbs might have then killed the party for a generation.

Friday’s expressions of support for IVF from Republicans came after the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the national group tasked with electing Republicans to the Senate, urged its candidates on the ballot this year to support IVF and reject government restrictions, citing the procedure’s popularity.

“When responding to the Alabama Supreme Court ruling, it is imperative that our candidates align with the public’s overwhelming support for IVF and fertility treatments,” NRSC Executive Director Jason Thielman wrote in a memo to “Senate Candidates” dated Friday and obtained by The Washington Post.

Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee spokesman David Bergstein said in a statement Friday, “The fact that the NRSC had to tell their candidates how unpopular their own agenda opposing women’s reproductive freedom is speaks for itself.”