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Q:

How do you feel about Trump being banned, but not known members of international terrorist organizations?

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:59 pm Q:

How do you feel about Trump being banned, but not known members of international terrorist organizations?

Youre not allowed to point out stuff like that. It makes it look like Trump being banned was just a political move

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:01 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:59 pm Q:

How do you feel about Trump being banned, but not known members of international terrorist organizations?

Youre not allowed to point out stuff like that. It makes it look like Trump being banned was just a political move

Can one of you two (or both of you) please tell me which known members of international terrorist organizations were/are tweeting things worthy of banishment?
Thanks in advance.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:11 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:01 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:59 pm Q:

How do you feel about Trump being banned, but not known members of international terrorist organizations?

Youre not allowed to point out stuff like that. It makes it look like Trump being banned was just a political move

Can one of you two (or both of you) please tell me which known members of international terrorist organizations were/are tweeting things worthy of banishment?
Thanks in advance.

Are you implying that you don't think any terrorists or terrorist sympathizers are on/using twitter?

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:18 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:11 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:01 am

Youre not allowed to point out stuff like that. It makes it look like Trump being banned was just a political move

Can one of you two (or both of you) please tell me which known members of international terrorist organizations were/are tweeting things worthy of banishment?
Thanks in advance.

Are you implying that you don't think any terrorists or terrorist sympathizers are on/using twitter?

Answer my question and then I'll answer your's.
P.S. I am curious as to why you removed your original post (that I had quoted) from your response to my post.

Come on Gutter. It is well documented how terrorists/terrorist organizations/ terrorist sympathizers/pro terrorist media outlets utilize social media of various types to communicate, recruit, spread propaganda, etc.

Yes, in recent years, the social media companies have cracked down on it, with/after pressure from government. But the measures in place are still being circumvented. It's incredibly easy to create an email address and a twitter account.

And fwiw, I am fine with twitter suspending or banning whoever they want.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:59 pm Q:

How do you feel about Trump being banned, but not known members of international terrorist organizations?

plot twist:

Trump IS a known member of an International terrorist organization

but yea.

I keep wondering about this paradox of intolerance tho.

in a tolerant society, it shouldn't be tolerated.

GTFO with the hate speech and such.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:01 am Come on Gutter. It is well documented how terrorists/terrorist organizations/ terrorist sympathizers/pro terrorist media outlets utilize social media of various types to communicate, recruit, spread propaganda, etc.

Yes, in recent years, the social media companies have cracked down on it, with/after pressure from government. But the measures in place are still being circumvented. It's incredibly easy to create an email address and a twitter account.

And fwiw, I am fine with twitter suspending or banning whoever they want.

Your original post.....
How do you feel about Trump being banned, but not known members of international terrorist organizations?

My response.....
Can one of you two (or both of you) please tell me which known members of international terrorist organizations were/are tweeting things worthy of banishment?
Thanks in advance.

Your response to my post.....
Are you implying that you don't think any terrorists or terrorist sympathizers are on/using twitter?


1. I was in no way implying that I don't think terrorists or terrorist sympathizers are on/use Twitter.
I asked who these known members are and what have they posted that is worthy of banishment.
I'm still waiting for names from you and/or Randy.

2. My simple answer to your original question is, I don't feel anyone should be banned - unless they PURPOSELY tweet things to cause not just probable but also potential harm to other people. The problem is defining what that may or may not be.

3. I agree with you 100% that "terrorists/terrorist organizations/ terrorist sympathizers/pro terrorist media outlets utilize social media of various types to communicate, recruit, spread propaganda, etc." and that "the measures are being circumvented".

4. I'm going to add that someone has to be an absolute asshole to preach for free speech without realizing that when "free speech" is abused it can cause not just harm to others but those people themselves and their family members too.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:59 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:59 pm Q:

How do you feel about Trump being banned, but not known members of international terrorist organizations?

plot twist:

Trump IS a known member of an International terrorist organization

The United States government?

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:59 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:59 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:59 pm Q:

How do you feel about Trump being banned, but not known members of international terrorist organizations?

plot twist:

Trump IS a known member of an International terrorist organization

The United States government?

Trump isn't a current member of the United States Government.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:44 pm

DrPepper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:40 pm One of my first research advisor's most important rules was to KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW. The point being, what is the stuff we are sure about and what is not? What are our assumptions? What are the boundary conditions? etc

would you agree that it’s more important to know (and admit) what you don’t know?

Yes. I believe that was the point (but not as catchy a phrase)

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:38 pm Phd loves posting these statistics that focuses on the 1 percent exception of the population. Its cute. Because it ignores the other 99 percent of what's happening in the ignore. The 99 percent that never needed a covid shot.

And those dudes you listen to only speak of the mild Covid variants when they say everyone did everything wrong. They do not break it part. They just want to hook you, get the clicks, the calls, and follows, your dollars, your votes, and the power. They don't talk about the times the morgues were overflowing, ventilators were in short supply, and cities were building hospitals overnight. We needed a vaccine then.
I will take Phd's knowledge and credentials over the talking heads you listen to any day on this. If I need to know about a payday loan, I'll check your guy out.

Using those ventilators was a mistake as it's been talked about for a while now. Would have been much wiser to treat it with other treatments and vitamins. Some of those common people who didn't have PhDs proved to be far more right than the ones who did.

Yes, we know that now. But it was standard hospital treatment protocol to put people with low blood oxygen levels on ventilators. It had nothing to do with vaccines. Every-day doctors and nurses were doing their best. Others were too scared to leave their homes.

DrPepper wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:53 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:44 pm

DrPepper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:40 pm One of my first research advisor's most important rules was to KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW. The point being, what is the stuff we are sure about and what is not? What are our assumptions? What are the boundary conditions? etc

would you agree that it’s more important to know (and admit) what you don’t know?

Yes. I believe that was the point (but not as catchy a phrase)

As I mentioned a few pages ago, that’s one of the answers I give when someone asks me the obligatory interview question “what is your biggest strength”. As scientists we are trained to recognize that what we don’t know far exceeds what we do know! The successful ones are those who which is which.

My postdoc adviser used to say “we all know that 99% of everything we know about [abcd] is totally wrong/garbage but the problem is no one knows which 99%”. His pet peeve was the hypotheses regarding the health benefits of orally ingested “antioxidants” - he was (one of) the leading scientist(s) on the chemistry of organic free radicals.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:49 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:59 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:59 am

plot twist:

Trump IS a known member of an International terrorist organization

The United States government?

Trump isn't a current member of the United States Government.

Exactly. Although he IS a member of the MAGA Republican Cult

zsn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:33 pm

DrPepper wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:53 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:44 pm
would you agree that it’s more important to know (and admit) what you don’t know?

Yes. I believe that was the point (but not as catchy a phrase)

As I mentioned a few pages ago, that’s one of the answers I give when someone asks me the obligatory interview question “what is your biggest strength”. As scientists we are trained to recognize that what we don’t know far exceeds what we do know! The successful ones are those who which is which.

My postdoc adviser used to say “we all know that 99% of everything we know about [abcd] is totally wrong/garbage but the problem is no one knows which 99%”. His pet peeve was the hypotheses regarding the health benefits of orally ingested “antioxidants” - he was (one of) the leading scientist(s) on the chemistry of organic free radicals.

i had many “discussions” with fellow grad students who had pre-conceived notions about their systems of study, and sought to tweak their analyses/parameters in order to achieve what they “thought” the answer should be

i kept saying till i was blue in the face, that that’s not how this (science) works

Profound, Elon.

You really showed them!

Cuz in every other every thing ever, the extremists are simultaneously never upset at all.