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Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 11:58 am
by pdub
I will add, as I did several times in the F the NCAA thread, a majority of D1 athletes are doing it primarily for the love of the game and the value of a scholarship to a school.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 11:59 am
by jfish26
pdub wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:58 am
I will add, as I did several times in the F the NCAA thread, a majority of D1 athletes are doing it primarily for the love of the game and the value of a scholarship to a school.
Your point being?
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 12:01 pm
by Deleted User 863
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:50 am
Lazy non-answer to a basic question.
I would not be comfortable with NIL rights being asigned to the University because I do not think the Universities would pay all of it out to the players. And if they kept some for themselves I would feel like they were exploiting the players for financial gain. And I think that's exactly what they would do.
I do not think the Universities have any business in a players NIL rights. Legally or moraly.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 12:01 pm
by MICHHAWK
i would love to see into the future 4-5 years from now. to see how much the top kids can earn in their 4-5 year semiprocollegiateathleticslike career. 7? 8 figures?
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 12:02 pm
by jfish26
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:01 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:50 am
Lazy non-answer to a basic question.
I would not be comfortable with NIL rights being asigned to the University because I do not think the Universities would pay all of it out to the players. And if they kept some for themselves I would feel like they were exploiting the players for financial gain. And I think that's exactly what they would do.
I do not think the Universities have any business in a players NIL rights. Legally or moraly.
Of course I agree with you. I'm interested in the views of those who think college basketball is now dead.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 12:05 pm
by KUTradition
i’m sure playing for a particular university does nothing to improve NIL value
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 12:07 pm
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:05 pm
i’m sure playing for a particular university does nothing to improve NIL value
I'm sure the demographics of one's IG followers does nothing to improve the value of sponsored content.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 12:15 pm
by Deleted User 863
KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:05 pm
i’m sure playing for a particular university does nothing to improve NIL value
Of course it does. But the players have to be invited to that school. Nobody is forcing colleges to accept these athletes with NIL aspirations. The schools control who is on their team and can change their mind at any time for any reason.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 12:23 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:15 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:05 pm
i’m sure playing for a particular university does nothing to improve NIL value
Of course it does. But the players have to be invited to that school. Nobody is forcing colleges to accept these athletes with NIL aspirations. The schools control who is on their team and can change their mind at any time for any reason.
CBA time.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 12:39 pm
by Deleted User 863
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:23 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:15 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:05 pm
i’m sure playing for a particular university does nothing to improve NIL value
Of course it does. But the players have to be invited to that school. Nobody is forcing colleges to accept these athletes with NIL aspirations. The schools control who is on their team and can change their mind at any time for any reason.
CBA time.
I think that is nearly impossible to do with so many athletes across so many very different sports landscapes. Could potentially create as many issues and it would solve.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 12:48 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:39 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:23 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:15 pm
Of course it does. But the players have to be invited to that school. Nobody is forcing colleges to accept these athletes with NIL aspirations. The schools control who is on their team and can change their mind at any time for any reason.
CBA time.
I think that is nearly impossible to do with so many athletes across so many very different sports landscapes. Could potentially create as many issues and it would solve.
I was not all the way serious on that, but I do think courts will increasingly see student athletes as having employee rights.
I think NIL is going to practically make much of the push for pay-for-play moot for a good period of time, and it will be awhile before we see talks of CBA('s).
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:01 pm
by pdub
“ push for pay-for-play moot”
Because NIL is a thinly disguised version of it.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:04 pm
by jfish26
pdub wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:01 pm
“ push for pay-for-play moot”
Because NIL is a thinly disguised version of it.
On this we agree. It would have been much better for the NCAA to honestly confront the issues as presented, rather than try - AGAIN - to shove everything through dumb, ambiguous Rules.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:14 pm
by twocoach
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:17 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:16 am
Mjl wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:13 am
Hunter #1.
After that I like the Missouri State kid.
Same.
Wish we could get some clarity on Jalen. I don't think anyone is going to tell CB that he has no shot at the 1st Round.
I mean, I'll lie to him, if that will help.
Tell him the truth. That should in theory get him back to KU.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:18 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
The Athletic does not have Jalen Wilson listed among its top 100 draft prospects.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:19 pm
by jfish26
To be clear, I am volunteering to lie to Christian.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:22 pm
by Deleted User 863
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:18 pm
The Athletic does not have Jalen Wilson listed among its top 100 draft prospects.
He must really hate college. Or he is very impatient. He should relax and let his game develop at the college level. He isn't remotely close to NBA ready.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:38 pm
by jfish26
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:22 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:18 pm
The Athletic does not have Jalen Wilson listed among its top 100 draft prospects.
He must really hate college. Or he is very impatient. He should relax and let his game develop at the college level. He isn't remotely close to NBA ready.
He’s doing exactly what he should be doing.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:41 pm
by Deleted User 863
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:38 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:22 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:18 pm
The Athletic does not have Jalen Wilson listed among its top 100 draft prospects.
He must really hate college. Or he is very impatient. He should relax and let his game develop at the college level. He isn't remotely close to NBA ready.
He’s doing exactly what he should be doing.
It's fine to declare, that's not what I mean. But he's not likely to get to invited to any pre draft stuff if he's not projected top 100. So it's sort of a pointless declaration.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:41 pm
by ousdahl
when do we start getting draft feedback about our guys, anyway?