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Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:43 pm
by Deleted User 863
247 players from college have declared.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.co ... 22%3famp=1

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:44 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 1:43 pm 247 players from college have declared.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.co ... 22%3famp=1
Which was a sizable decrease. Great for CBB.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:44 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 1:41 pm when do we start getting draft feedback about our guys, anyway?
The combine is May 16th-22nd.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:46 pm
by Deleted User 863
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 1:44 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 1:43 pm 247 players from college have declared.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.co ... 22%3famp=1
Which was a sizable decrease. Great for CBB.
296 last year it looks like.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 4:31 pm
by Mjl
Looks like Jesse Newell is transferring from the Jayhawks to the Chiefs. That's too bad selfishly - I really like Jesse's work, and don't really like football that much.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 4:38 pm
by pdub
Jesse has stuck around enough to where I enjoy his stuff. Dotcom he had to deal with the message boreds.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 9:57 am
by InfiniteJ
I'm surprised Matthew Mayer is transferring out of Baylor...maybe he finally came to the realization that his coach sucks.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 10:58 am
by jfish26
InfiniteJ wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 9:57 am I'm surprised Matthew Mayer is transferring out of Baylor...maybe he finally came to the realization that his coach sucks.
Feels like he should really go to UNC, and just step into Manek's role.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 11:48 am
by pdub
Gross.

https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/player ... asketball/

But gives a better ( gross ) valuation of what a kid like Nigel Pack should be getting ( under 30k ) as opposed to 800k.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 1:16 pm
by NDballer13
Who the hell is Adrien Nunez?

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 1:21 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
NDballer13 wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 1:16 pm Who the hell is Adrien Nunez?
TikTok influencer, apparently.

That ranking looks to be a valuation solely on social media followers.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 1:27 pm
by pdub
Incorrect.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 1:56 pm
by jfish26
pdub wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 11:48 am Gross.

https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/player ... asketball/

But gives a better ( gross ) valuation of what a kid like Nigel Pack should be getting ( under 30k ) as opposed to 800k.
So…a proprietary (opaque) algorithm spits out a “better … valuation” of a player’s worth to a third party (what he “should be getting” from a third party) than what the player and a third party agreed?

How nice for the player.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 2:17 pm
by pdub
The numbers match closer to what might be in line with other influencers.
The point i'm trying to make is not that amateur players should be getting paid this kind of money ( i don't think they should be paid if they want to play college sports via NIL ) via NIL but more that the numbers we are seeing are pay for play and not pay for brand publicity/awareness/growth.

Also, the fact that there are rankings, for NIL contracts, of college athletes, for $$ they can make, is also a point i'm trying to make. Soon college will be on spotrac.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 2:29 pm
by twocoach
Any dipshit can create a list and call it a "ranking". Welcome to the internet.

That ranking list has as much value as a fan-created mock draft.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 2:37 pm
by pdub
Perhaps.
Or perhaps they have hired or contracted people who work in the social media/advertising field to help come up with those evals.
Believe it or not, it's an actual business.

I work in the field ( not my main job but have been part of several campaigns where I hear the numbers ) and have my clients have partnered with influencers and companies that help connect you with said influencers and I can tell you that Pack and Tshiebwe aren't getting that money to bring that value to the brand. They are getting paid to play for the school.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 2:37 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
twocoach wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 2:29 pm Any dipshit can create a list and call it a "ranking". Welcome to the internet.

That ranking list has as much value as a fan-created mock draft.
Are you saying that an arbitrary ranking about value has no value?

How do you calculate the value of this ranking about value?

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 2:38 pm
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 2:37 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 2:29 pm Any dipshit can create a list and call it a "ranking". Welcome to the internet.

That ranking list has as much value as a fan-created mock draft.
Are you saying that an arbitrary ranking about value has no value?

How do you calculate the value of this ranking about value?
Value over Replacement Algorithm obviously.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 2:40 pm
by pdub
If they have professionals helping create those lists, laugh at it all you want ( because I do sometimes too ), but it is very much a real thing.

Re: Transfer portal 2022

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 2:40 pm
by MICHHAWK
unless you are a smoking hot babe in a thong bikini. what exactly are you influencing. and who exactly are you influencing. nobody i know.