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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:39 am
by Deleted User 902
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/02/10335864 ... y-arkansas
Inmates Weren't Told They Were Given An Anti-Parasite Drug Instead Of COVID-19 Meds
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:28 am
by JKLivin
ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:40 am
Isn’t part of the prob with ivermectin that folks are taking veterinary size doses?
Is there any approved human use?
I don’t think? They had a thing on NPR about yesterday and they said the company who makes it is telling humans NOT to consume their product…how often does that happen?
Ivermectin is used in humans to treat lice, I believe. My understanding is that the issue is people taking horse dosages out of ignorance.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:03 am
by Deleted User 89
no one should assume that all physicians are equal...you’ve got D- MDs and A+ MDs, and also some that are always trying to improve and those that settled on the info they had when they graduated med school
there are physicians that still think fasciotomy is a good idea
that some are prescribing ivermectin means jack shit as far as it’s efficacy against covid is concerned
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:13 am
by TDub
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/04/health/u ... index.html
So...explain the push for booster shots
Explain Israel
So much conflicting information
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:45 am
by JKLivin
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:28 am
Crazy.
Also crazy that 88k prescriptions for the human version have been filled. That must mean a lot of doctors think this works?
My college roommate is a family practice physician, and he has told me more than once that it is common practice to prescribe a low dose of something if a patient is demanding it, assuming that it won't make things any worse.
People get it in their heads that they need something - anything to protect their lives, and appeasing them with a low dose of Ivermectin, even if it doesn't help with COVID, might make them feel more relaxed and in control. Plus, if they have any lice problems, you get that under control in the process.
And, yes, I know, the vaccine is the logical/scientifically-proven way to do that, but you can't always fix stupid.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:48 am
by JKLivin
I think they're anticipating that mutations are going to eventually render the current vaccines useless and are trying to push back the rush for boosters until they have a better idea of what that is going to look like. It's a giant cluster hump, but government officials are terrified of just admitting "We don't know how to fix this. Many of you are going to get sick and some of you are going to die no matter how we respond." We'd have mass hysteria on our hands on an unprecendented level.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:59 am
by Sparko
Vaccine efficacy appears to wane a tad. Best to get boosters on such a lethal disease for the unvaccinated. Get vaccinated. Stay vaccinated and support ongoing improvements to the mRNA vaccine.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:43 pm
by TDub
Sparko wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:59 am
Vaccine efficacy appears to wane a tad. Best to get boosters on such a lethal disease for the unvaccinated. Get vaccinated. Stay vaccinated and support ongoing improvements to the mRNA vaccine.
So...you didnt read the article. You just spouting what your fed. How MAGA of you.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:12 pm
by JKLivin
TDub wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:43 pm
Sparko wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:59 am
Vaccine efficacy appears to wane a tad. Best to get boosters on such a lethal disease for the unvaccinated. Get vaccinated. Stay vaccinated and support ongoing improvements to the mRNA vaccine.
So...you didnt read the article. You just spouting what your fed. How MAGA of you.
Yeah, the stuff I’ve read today trends a bit grim compared to the vaccine-as-panacea trope from earlier in the year.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:46 pm
by twocoach
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:45 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:28 am
Crazy.
Also crazy that 88k prescriptions for the human version have been filled. That must mean a lot of doctors think this works?
My college roommate is a family practice physician, and he has told me more than once that it is common practice to prescribe a low dose of something if a patient is demanding it, assuming that it won't make things any worse.
People get it in their heads that they need something - anything to protect their lives, and appeasing them with a low dose of Ivermectin, even if it doesn't help with COVID, might make them feel more relaxed and in control. Plus, if they have any lice problems, you get that under control in the process.
And, yes, I know, the vaccine is the logical/scientifically-proven way to do that, but you can't always fix stupid.
The ivermectin treatment for lice is a topical cream, not a pill.
https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a613011.html
But I was assured that the number of people using ivermectin to treat covid was very small and nothing to worry about so the reports of emergency rooms filled with people who have ingested too much of it must be fake news designed to slander this amazing treatment.
</sarcasm>
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:07 pm
by JKLivin
twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:46 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:45 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:28 am
Crazy.
Also crazy that 88k prescriptions for the human version have been filled. That must mean a lot of doctors think this works?
My college roommate is a family practice physician, and he has told me more than once that it is common practice to prescribe a low dose of something if a patient is demanding it, assuming that it won't make things any worse.
People get it in their heads that they need something - anything to protect their lives, and appeasing them with a low dose of Ivermectin, even if it doesn't help with COVID, might make them feel more relaxed and in control. Plus, if they have any lice problems, you get that under control in the process.
And, yes, I know, the vaccine is the logical/scientifically-proven way to do that, but you can't always fix stupid.
The ivermectin treatment for lice is a topical cream, not a pill.
https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a613011.html
But I was assured that the number of people using ivermectin to treat covid was very small and nothing to worry about so the reports of emergency rooms filled with people who have ingested too much of it must be fake news designed to slander this amazing treatment.
</sarcasm>
Meh. People will do what makes sense to them. I got vaccinated in April, and I’ll get the booster when it is offered. Until then, I’ll live my life and let others do the same.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:33 pm
by zsn
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:03 am
no one should assume that all physicians are equal...you’ve got D- MDs and A+ MDs, and also some that are always trying to improve and those that settled on the info they had when they graduated med school
there are physicians that still think fasciotomy is a good idea
that some are prescribing ivermectin means jack shit as far as it’s efficacy against covid is concerned
It’s one of the side effects of direct-to-consumer TV advertising that don’t tell on tv - “ask your doctor about…..”
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:46 pm
by TDub
https://nhssequoyah.com/
Wheres that fact checker when ya need him. More conflicting information.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:48 am
by Deleted User 887
Hmmmm. Very strange but of course it's a legitimate coincidence that on September 11th in Los Angles the De La Hoya fight was to take place at the Staples Center and Joe Rogan was supposed to "perform" at the Forum. Both contracted Covid - bad. Meanwhile, Rogan hasn't been cancelled. Yet.
What upsets me is there were several other fights on the card at the Staples Center and instead of still having them - they are "postponed" according to the Staples Center. WRONG! They were moved to Florida and Tito Ortiz vs. Anderson Silva is/was one of them.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:35 am
by JKLivin
But . . . But . . . the oUTrAGe! Red State troglodytes! Orange man bad! Freedom of the press!
Who needs facts when you have science and strong emotions?!?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:53 am
by Deleted User 89
hilarious coming from mr. cankles himself
illy wrote:cant make this shit up
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:29 am
by sdoyel
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:19 am
by sdoyel
We call these folks: Grifters
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:21 am
by Deleted User 902
Literally in NYC you can get $100 for taking the vax. These people would rather put themselves into a net negative situation of -$300 for beneficial vaccine to....*check notes*...own the libs? Not even sure any more.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:25 pm
by sdoyel