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Re: Chefs

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:06 am
by holidaysmore
Two concerns and the two most important positions on the o-line would be the health of Fish and Remmers. Hopefully that time off allowed them to heal and be ready for the stretch run. You are right, Newton I suspect we have seen the last time Schwartz suits up for the Chiefs. He can walk, or limp away with a ring, a hot wife, his new golf simulator in the basement and a future in cooking.

You would love to protect your homefield and create as much of a crowd noise advantage as you can but it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Browns fans come in droves to KC. In all realities it means more to Cleveland because they have never been this far before in a long, long time. Plus, it is only a 12 hr drive from Cleveland.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:43 am
by NewtonHawk11
An actual shorter drive. 12 hours from Cleveland to KC. With a game at Sunday at 2, tons will make the drive if able.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:44 am
by NewtonHawk11
His wife is smoking tho....

Re: Chefs

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:17 am
by pdub
Denzel Ward, as expected, is back.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:06 pm
by pdub

Re: Chefs

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:14 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Stinks Watkins and Gay weren't out there.

Replace Watkins with Robinson and Gay is a ST guy with a limited role on the defense.

Chiefs are still in really, really good shape.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:55 pm
by holidaysmore
Very good shape. At this rate you have to assume that Schwartz is done. Sammy might be a game time decision and Gay would be out. Encouraging to see CEH is back.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:23 pm
by pdub
Sammy was talking some mild shit on Twitter.
I think he should be back ( or i'm hoping ).

If CEH and Watkins are back healthy, we rollin'.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:25 pm
by holidaysmore
At this point in the season practices are nothing more than glorified walk throughs and the media availability is generally just stretching and warm ups. Sammy could have joined the rest of the team later on. My guess would be Sammy goes but for how long who knows. Injury prone, especially lower body injuries have a tendency to become other area injuries especially in cold weather. Assuming the Chiefs get by this week I would have rather him missed the game against Cleveland and have him back for either the Ravens or the Bills.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:42 pm
by pdub
I'm not sure if Kareem Hunt is warranted to be angry at the Chiefs - i've seen a lot that he's been 'waiting for this moment'.

From what I understand, he lied to to the staff, and when the video came out, the Chiefs hands were tied. Do I think what he did deserved getting kicked off the team? Probably not - especially since I think law enforcement should be doing the policing and not the NFL. Do I think he should be shocked/still angry he did get kicked off? No.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:28 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Athletes look for any advantage. Nothing more to it then that.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:09 am
by pdub
Chiefs handled it well enough last season ( Houston’s fake punt ) but they probably need to be prepared for something like that. And Robinson and Hardman, if you’re returning a kick, don’t go backwards, and it’s ok to call fair catch.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:04 am
by Deleted User 289
pdub wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:42 pm I'm not sure if Kareem Hunt is warranted to be angry at the Chiefs - i've seen a lot that he's been 'waiting for this moment'.

From what I understand, he lied to to the staff, and when the video came out, the Chiefs hands were tied. Do I think what he did deserved getting kicked off the team? Probably not - especially since I think law enforcement should be doing the policing and not the NFL. Do I think he should be shocked/still angry he did get kicked off? No.
"Do I think what he did deserved getting kicked off the team? Probably not".

I respectfully 100% disagree.
Let's review - "what he did".
THE GUY ASSAULTED A WOMAN. When confronted by team management and he was asked about the incident, he KNOWINGLY lied to them about it.
Now remember, this happened the same year he "allegedly" punched a man in the face, and in a separate incident he "allegedly" "attacked" a man.
There comes a point where as an employer, you should not and can not tolerate your employee assaulting a woman - AND lying to you about it. To me, it's simply unforgivable.
Then you have the other two incidents on top of that. I don't know if he was charged with and/or found guilty of the other incidents - and I know you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty but come on - when INDEPENDENT (not directly involved - and with no motive) people claim they witnessed you do something - 99 times out of 100 you did it.

Then we have the Browns who happily signed him.
AFTER he was suspended for 8 games, he got pulled over (with an open container of alcohol and a large amount of weed) by an overly sympathetic cop who didn't do what he's supposed to do in regards to charging him - because he's a Brown, and I could be wrong but I believe the Browns gave him a free pass.
As a team owner and/or GM I very well could/would accept it if he showed remorse and we could move on - IF he didn't have his past history - but how many strikes does a guy get?

The NFL has a piss poor reputation in regards to their players, what their players have done, and what the NFL has tolerated their players doing - with little repercussion/s.
If the NFL brass, team management, and players, don't work together - then the league will continue to be known as the National Felon League.
The league has tried to do something about their reputation and yet check this out - this is what is known. There very well could be other "incidents" in which we don't know about.
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/

Moving on.......
My worthless guess is Hunt does NOT have a very good game against the Chiefs.
I think as happy as he may be to be in the playoffs, he's still very bitter he was not a Super Bowl champ last season with the Chiefs. Having to stand (or sit) on the sideline/s and watch the Chiefs offense clicking without him can't be good for his psyche. Some may feel it will motivate him. It very well may but sometimes (often?) a player tries too hard for personal reasons that are not in the best interest/s of his team.
We shall see.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:59 am
by holidaysmore
That is a good point you make. It would be one thing if Hunt was done wrong by the Chiefs but from all accounts the Chiefs gave every opportunity for Hunt to come clean with them. Again, from my understanding the Chiefs wanted no parts of releasing Hunt and had him in front of the upper brass multiple times to come clean, which he didn't. The video came out, the Chiefs looked like idiots and Hunt got released.

IMO, when Hunt was saying it was 'personal' was he was riding an emotional win high and said some stuff he really didn't mean.

Last year against Houston the Chiefs were NERVOUS and tight as a drum. Kelce dropped ball. D-Rob, multiple drops. Blown coverages. I'm willing to bet that won't be the case against the Browns. This is a veteran ball club who has been through just about every scenario one can think of in the post season. They play the way they are fully capable of this game shouldn't even be close.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:09 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Hunt's a giant d-bag to call this a "personal" week. But the journalists perpetuating that notion should be ashamed. It's a terrible angle.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:11 am
by NewtonHawk11
I wouldn't be shocked if this game is 3 scores by the 3rd quarter. Something like 30-10 in the 3rd quarter.

I mean, Big Ben threw for 500 yards. The Browns defense is really poo-poo. Their safeties and LBs are complete trash. Kelce is going to be tearing them up over the middle.

Yeah, everyone talks about the Chiefs being down 24-0 against Houston, but not many talk about how they scored 51 points. In a game against a team that had already won a playoff game. I don't think the game will be that much different from last year's divisional game. There won't be a 24 point deficit at the 11 minute mark of the 2nd quarter, but there will be some plays that Cleveland makes that helps it stay close early on.

But Cleveland is bad at defense, their offense isn't much if you take away the running game. They had to have everything go 100% their way, and still could have lost that game if Tomlin doesn't make the atrocious decision to punt on 4th and 1.

I predicted the Chiefs by I think 10 in a different thread. I'm changing it. Chiefs by 17. And Browns score late to get it to 17.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:14 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Chiefs have not been covering and, according to Mellinger, Browns defensive woes may be overblown against the Chiefs because they don't blitz with Myles Garrett being so disruptive on the edge. I would take the 10 points, but would also never bet against Mahomes in this kind of situation. Chiefs 37 Browns 28

Re: Chefs

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:33 am
by NewtonHawk11
Regarding Chiefs not covering, I think they've been bored with the regular season. Like I mentioned earlier, they get out to big leads, and then coast it in. Granted, that didn't happen against Atlanta, but it basically happened in all previous games where they've been close. Games never really in doubt.

Garrett is all they have on the edge. Their other good edge rusher, Vernon, is out. And Garrett was plain exhausted at the end of last week. Think Chiefs shade protection to wherever he is. The plan to stick with the Chiefs is to rush 4 and have great defense on the back end. Don't know if Cleveland has the horses for that. I think the Chiefs score around 35. Don't think Cleveland has the offense to stick with that. Something like 24 of their 48 points were drives that started in Pittsburgh's territory. That's absurd. Mahomes won't throw INTs, and even when he does like the Miami game, they were still up 30-10 in the 3rd quarter.

This reminds me of how worried Chiefs fans were about Henry last year. I think Chubb and Hunt get more on their own and Henry is more a product of the system, but you take teams trying to beat you on the ground instead of getting chunk plays over the top.

Like I'm not trying to sound biased here, but the Chiefs are the best team out there remaining. The next best team is in the NFC with the Pack. The Chiefs shouldn't necessarily be worried about this game. They broke their bad luck streak last year, and now they are basically playing with house money as well. They are as loose as it comes being a top team. And Andy Reid is a big reason why.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:48 am
by pdub
I think we win but a playoff team is a playoff team - they have weapons and have won because of them.
This isn't Jacksonville we're talking about.

Re: Chefs

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:49 am
by CrimsonNBlue
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:33 am Regarding Chiefs not covering, I think they've been bored with the regular season.
This is just not something I will ever buy in the NFL. NBA, sure.