Kansas Crimson

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 6:55 pm Here you go, Illy. "Enforce the rules"

https://www.si.com/college/2022/05/03/t ... -be-coming

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 7:41 am College leaders are beginning to speak out publicly about the situation, airing their frustrations over an NIL concept that has quickly evolved from its original intent of star athletes sponsoring a local business to crowdfunding models doling out four- and five-figure payments for appearances.

“Everybody wants to hide under the NIL umbrella. This isn’t NIL,” Colorado AD Rick George told SI last week. “As the leaders of the industry, we have to say, ‘This is not acceptable.’”

“The only ones getting penalized are the ones trying to follow the rules,” said Todd Berry, the executive director of the American Football Coaches Association. “If a booster decides it’s worth $100,000 for a player to have a 30-minute autograph signing, and you say he can’t do that, I don’t know if that’s going to fly in the courts.”

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 7:41 am College leaders are beginning to speak out publicly about the situation,*1* airing their frustrations over an NIL concept that has quickly evolved from its original intent of star athletes sponsoring a local business to crowdfunding models doling out four- and five-figure payments for appearances.

“Everybody wants to hide under the NIL umbrella. This isn’t NIL,” Colorado AD Rick George told SI last week.*2* “As the leaders of the industry, we have to say, ‘This is not acceptable.’”*3*

“The only ones getting penalized are the ones trying to follow the rules,” said Todd Berry, the executive director of the American Football Coaches Association. “If a booster decides it’s worth $100,000 for a player to have a 30-minute autograph signing, and you say he can’t do that, I don’t know if that’s going to fly in the courts.”*4*

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 9:58 am2. Eye roll.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:04 amDo I think things will stay Pack-hot forever? I do not.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 9:54 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 7:41 am College leaders are beginning to speak out publicly about the situation,*1* airing their frustrations over an NIL concept that has quickly evolved from its original intent of star athletes sponsoring a local business to crowdfunding models doling out four- and five-figure payments for appearances.

“Everybody wants to hide under the NIL umbrella. This isn’t NIL,” Colorado AD Rick George told SI last week.*2* “As the leaders of the industry, we have to say, ‘This is not acceptable.’”*3*

“The only ones getting penalized are the ones trying to follow the rules,” said Todd Berry, the executive director of the American Football Coaches Association. “If a booster decides it’s worth $100,000 for a player to have a 30-minute autograph signing, and you say he can’t do that, I don’t know if that’s going to fly in the courts.”*4*

1 - Oh I'll bet they are.

2 - But yes, it is. It is an agreement between a player and a third party, under which the player gives the third party negotiated rights to use the player's name, image and likeness, in exchange for money. That's NIL.

3 - The "leaders of the industry" cannot shed a tear over this, as they're the ones who steered the bus over the damn cliff rather than figure out a detour that made sense.

4 - The courts? Huh?

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:18 amThe “leaders of the industry” part is so comical.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:58 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:18 amThe “leaders of the industry” part is so comical.

The young black kids making the money is threatening everything they have ever believed in. The walls they built are crashing in on them and they are lashing out--you can feel that anger. The leaders of the industry have had enough!

There are obvious parallels to other parts of society, particularly in the last 5-10 years.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:02 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:58 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:18 amThe “leaders of the industry” part is so comical.

The young black kids making the money is threatening everything they have ever believed in. The walls they built are crashing in on them and they are lashing out--you can feel that anger. The leaders of the industry have had enough!

There are obvious parallels to other parts of society, particularly in the last 5-10 years.

Real leaders of the industry would have seen this coming and moved to unionize the labor force. This would have led to a CBA the would have help control this mess we’re in now.

But, nah brah, head in the sand is a better approach!

DrPepper wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:05 am I see it more like Bills and Packers fans fighting to keep their teams in small markets. Sure, there is revenue sharing from the league and there is all that history with their fans, but there is always the lure of the other markets that can offer bigger bucks.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:05 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:02 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:58 am

The young black kids making the money is threatening everything they have ever believed in. The walls they built are crashing in on them and they are lashing out--you can feel that anger. The leaders of the industry have had enough!

There are obvious parallels to other parts of society, particularly in the last 5-10 years.

Real leaders of the industry would have seen this coming and moved to unionize the labor force. This would have led to a CBA the would have help control this mess we’re in now.

But, nah brah, head in the sand is a better approach!

The more sinister rationale is that they thought they could keep the status quo. Convince the fans and masses that the way it has always been done is the right, just way. Keep the dirty money quiet by making arbitrary and archaic rules and market it as "the purity of the game." Purity of the game was their weapons of mass destruction.

Then, like so often, the FBI ruins everything.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:11 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:05 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:02 am

Real leaders of the industry would have seen this coming and moved to unionize the labor force. This would have led to a CBA the would have help control this mess we’re in now.

But, nah brah, head in the sand is a better approach!

The more sinister rationale is that they thought they could keep the status quo. Convince the fans and masses that the way it has always been done is the right, just way. Keep the dirty money quiet by making arbitrary and archaic rules and market it as "the purity of the game." Purity of the game was their weapons of mass destruction.

Then, like so often, the FBI ruins everything.

I think the "real" explanation is likely to be much much more mundane: the NCAA became such a grotesquely overwrought beast, with so many irons in the fire, cooks in the kitchen, competing priorities and so on, that it was effectively paralyzed, incapable of prudently managing coming change.

Which can of course be by design; that sort of inertia is ripe for exploitation. Chaos is a great cover.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:14 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:11 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:05 am

The more sinister rationale is that they thought they could keep the status quo. Convince the fans and masses that the way it has always been done is the right, just way. Keep the dirty money quiet by making arbitrary and archaic rules and market it as "the purity of the game." Purity of the game was their weapons of mass destruction.

Then, like so often, the FBI ruins everything.

I think the "real" explanation is likely to be much much more mundane: the NCAA became such a grotesquely overwrought beast, with so many irons in the fire, cooks in the kitchen, competing priorities and so on, that it was effectively paralyzed, incapable of prudently managing coming change.

Which can of course be by design; that sort of inertia is ripe for exploitation. Chaos is a great cover.

Where the NCAA differs from other sports governing bodies is that the bylaws were outrageously numerous. Chaos is right. Every situation: new bylaw! Every crisis: committee!

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:14 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:11 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:05 am

The more sinister rationale is that they thought they could keep the status quo. Convince the fans and masses that the way it has always been done is the right, just way. Keep the dirty money quiet by making arbitrary and archaic rules and market it as "the purity of the game." Purity of the game was their weapons of mass destruction.

Then, like so often, the FBI ruins everything.

I think the "real" explanation is likely to be much much more mundane: the NCAA became such a grotesquely overwrought beast, with so many irons in the fire, cooks in the kitchen, competing priorities and so on, that it was effectively paralyzed, incapable of prudently managing coming change.

Which can of course be by design; that sort of inertia is ripe for exploitation. Chaos is a great cover.

Where the NCAA differs from other sports governing bodies is that the bylaws were outrageously numerous. Chaos is right. Every situation: new bylaw! Every crisis: committee!