Kansas Crimson

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:03 pm We've covered this I think multiple times before.
Here's one round of it I found:

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ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:15 am well, "we've professionalized the college student" just seems to undermine the whole idea that college is meant to prepare you for a professional career.

it was meant to be some reference to the common refrain in this thread that the only college students who are no longer allowed to be college students if they pursue opportunities in the professional markets for which they are trained are the *checks notes* student ath-o-letes.

InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:17 pm Chris Johnson to Texas, apparently.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:04 pm there are no free lunches. of course the children need to pay their taxes. just like the rest of us. hd can afford to pay a tax expert.

do we really need to spoon feed these semi pros.

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:14 am I think its interesting listening to Dave McCormack and Mitch Lightfoot talk about NIL. They both lean more towards pdub and I's take on it moreso than the prevailing opinion here. "Free Agency", "diminishing the quality of college sports", "not so much about the love of the school or the game anymore", "guys are leaving schools to go somewhere else even though they get leas playing time...just because the money is better", "can't blame the players but its not necessarily helping the game" etc...


Also interesting that, because they arent "employees" their taxes aren't withheld and they are required to file and pay their own taxes with the IRS. They were saying that Kansas is trying to get tax experts in to help the kids but a lot of schools aren't....and almost none of these kids understand this process. A lot of these kids are getting the checks deposited and spending it or doing whatever....and don't have any left for the 30% taxes they owe on what they made....

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:33 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:14 am I think its interesting listening to Dave McCormack and Mitch Lightfoot talk about NIL. They both lean more towards pdub and I's take on it moreso than the prevailing opinion here. "Free Agency", "diminishing the quality of college sports", "not so much about the love of the school or the game anymore", "guys are leaving schools to go somewhere else even though they get leas playing time...just because the money is better", "can't blame the players but its not necessarily helping the game" etc...


Also interesting that, because they arent "employees" their taxes aren't withheld and they are required to file and pay their own taxes with the IRS. They were saying that Kansas is trying to get tax experts in to help the kids but a lot of schools aren't....and almost none of these kids understand this process. A lot of these kids are getting the checks deposited and spending it or doing whatever....and don't have any left for the 30% taxes they owe on what they made....

I think this is where there's so much noise from so many things happening at once - specifically, NIL and the portal.

I think the portal does far, FAR more "damage" to the on-court product than NIL (of course, I admit that in my concept of the world, NIL does not damage the on-court product at all).

And I would note more generally that the NCAA is being hit by a slow-moving train on tracks that have been evident since before the locomotive's smoke was even visible on the horizon. This is EXACTLY where things were always heading, and the NCAA chose to deny reality until reality sat on its face and wiggled.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:20 pm if rich dudes want to pay the children to play, what do I care. ain’t my money.