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Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:56 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
ChalkRocker wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:53 pm Well, if we're finally just gonna freely spit-ball, then...we keep the remaining eight, and add the AFC West teams. If we have to go to 16 teams, then take the Cowboys (recruiting footprint), Eagles (Cowboy rival), BYU (they gotta start playing on Saturdays, tho') and maybe Colorado State.

Boom! SEC can suck it, and KU will still dominate in BBall.
It stems from rumors regarding mutual interest between USC and B1G.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:56 pm
by Deleted User 89
ChalkRocker wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:53 pm Well, if we're finally just gonna freely spit-ball, then...we keep the remaining eight, and add the AFC West teams. If we have to go to 16 teams, then take the Cowboys (recruiting footprint), Eagles (Cowboy rival), BYU (they gotta start playing on Saturdays, tho') and maybe Colorado State.

Boom! SEC can suck it, and KU will still dominate in BBall.
hells yeah!!

(i’d give you a potd, but already promised it to 99)

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 4:49 pm
by Deleted User 89
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kansas ... e-espn-sec

Kansas senator calls on DOJ to investigate role ESPN played in Texas, Oklahoma move to SEC

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 5:17 pm
by Deleted User 863
Fox news as a source from Trad?

LOL

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:30 pm
by ChalkRocker
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:56 pm
ChalkRocker wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:53 pm Well, if we're finally just gonna freely spit-ball, then...we keep the remaining eight, and add the AFC West teams. If we have to go to 16 teams, then take the Cowboys (recruiting footprint), Eagles (Cowboy rival), BYU (they gotta start playing on Saturdays, tho') and maybe Colorado State.

Boom! SEC can suck it, and KU will still dominate in BBall.
It stems from rumors regarding mutual interest between USC and B1G.

Wasn't givin' you jazz, CnB.

Just liked Traddy's linked opinion. Seemed fun to let my imagination run wild.

To be fair, you still haven't poked any holes in my plan...

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:31 pm
by ChalkRocker
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 5:17 pm Fox news as a source from Trad?

LOL

You kinda stalkin' him, huh

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:16 pm
by Deleted User 89

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:03 am
by InfiniteJ
For conference realignment reasons, this upcoming football season might be the most important one KU has had in my lifetime...they have to show tangible progress that leads to a win-or-two MORE than everyone is expecting them to get.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:06 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Having a good football team with great fan support this season wouldn't hurt, but I just highly doubt a B1G invite at this point will hinge at all on an extra win or two by the football team in 2021.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:08 am
by Deleted User 863
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:06 am Having a good football team with great fan support this season wouldn't hurt, but I just highly doubt a B1G invite at this point will hinge at all on an extra win or two by the football team in 2021.
it's more about money than wins.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:13 am
by InfiniteJ
For the record, I don't think the B1G is happening; I was talking more about the overall picture.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:16 am
by CrimsonNBlue
InfiniteJ wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:13 am For the record, I don't think the B1G is happening; I was talking more about the overall picture.
I guess I'm just not sure what else KU would be chasing outside of B1G invite--they're sitting at the top of the same boat as the rest of the 8 if that doesn't happen.

I could see a stronger than expected football season being good from a national and media perception, but this will be done behind the scenes by people that know exactly what KU and KU football are.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:19 am
by NewtonHawk11
KU is 3rd in revenue behind Texas and OU with a shit football program over last decade. They have MULTIPLE options on the table. It's different than every other program in the remaining 8.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:38 am
by InfiniteJ
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:19 am KU is 3rd in revenue behind Texas and OU with a shit football program over last decade. They have MULTIPLE options on the table. It's different than every other program in the remaining 8.
With what is considered the worst football program over the last decade(+), the multiple options are probably the AAC, Mountain West, & a watered-down Big XII.

Maybe the best case scenario is that the Big XII adds a few new schools, KU shows a lot of progress/promise over the next few years (I know this is a stretch, but not unlike what has happened to ISU since Matt Campbell showed up) and then maybe they'll have enough ammo to go wherever it chooses (other than the SEC).

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:40 am
by MICHHAWK
i think an aac/BIG 12 merger is most likely.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:43 am
by CrimsonNBlue
I just think some are really overemphasizing football as it pertains to KU.

Even with Mangino's program, KU would not be in a ton better position from a conference realignment standpoint in 2021. Iowa State was mentioned. Obviously Oklahoma State is still in the Big 12. Two football programs that are miles ahead of KU's and have less tables with open seats than KU.

I think the preferable scenarios are 1. B1G (by a mile) 2. ACC for a few seasons.

After that, a PAC alliance might keep the program(s) relevant and that's as far down as it really goes. I just don't think a few years of football promise changes any of that, especially for the players in the B1G and ACC.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:54 am
by Deleted User 89
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:43 am I just think some are really overemphasizing football as it pertains to KU.

Even with Mangino's program, KU would not be in a ton better position from a conference realignment standpoint in 2021. Iowa State was mentioned. Obviously Oklahoma State is still in the Big 12. Two football programs that are miles ahead of KU's and have less tables with open seats than KU.

I think the preferable scenarios are 1. B1G (by a mile) 2. ACC for a few seasons.

After that, a PAC alliance might keep the program(s) relevant and that's as far down as it really goes. I just don't think a few years of football promise changes any of that, especially for the players in the B1G and ACC.
right

even a .500 fb team would basically be a gimme win against most B1G programs

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:01 am
by CrimsonNBlue
TraditionKU wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:54 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:43 am I just think some are really overemphasizing football as it pertains to KU.

Even with Mangino's program, KU would not be in a ton better position from a conference realignment standpoint in 2021. Iowa State was mentioned. Obviously Oklahoma State is still in the Big 12. Two football programs that are miles ahead of KU's and have less tables with open seats than KU.

I think the preferable scenarios are 1. B1G (by a mile) 2. ACC for a few seasons.

After that, a PAC alliance might keep the program(s) relevant and that's as far down as it really goes. I just don't think a few years of football promise changes any of that, especially for the players in the B1G and ACC.
right

even a .500 fb team would basically be a gimme win against most B1G programs
KU certainly doesn't upset the football power balance of the B1G.

Obviously, I doubt any B1G member is stoked about adding the worst P5 football program. I think it goes beyond wins and losses, though, and is more a question of value. And, unfortunately, KU FB's value just plain stinks right now. The silver lining is that there is a little bit of potential there, and the B1G knows it. Loyal fanbase and decent sized alumni base compared to several other P5 programs. The brand also helps. KU FB will never be Nebraska as far as football loyalty/viewership, but there is something to play with there.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:40 am
by shindig
Been quiet since mid last week. Not sure if that's good or bad.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:49 am
by NewtonHawk11
Quiet is good. Was Texas and OU quiet for the last year? Sure were. No need to solicit yourselves to that extreme in public.