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Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 12:34 pm
by jfish26
DeletedUser wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:48 am
jfish26 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:37 am
randylahey wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 1:13 pm I wouldn't worry about rebounding. We have a deep athletic team. These guys are competing for minutes. They will be fresh and competing for minutes. They'll be going after rebounds
I don’t think we can (in the context of rebounding anyway) call this team athletic, particularly in the frontcourt.

Hunter and Zach are minus athletes. KJ’s athleticism has yet to translate to even average rebounding. And lord knows what (or how much) we’ll get out of Bidunga.
Rebounding will be a key to our success. Defensive rebounding.

Bidunga will play 10-12mpg at most, unless we find a way to play he and Hunter together. Which seems unlikely at this point, but Self and Co. have all summer to try to get Bidunga ready for that.

I think it's almost a certainty that HD plays 30mpg. Same with KJ. Same with DH. I am good with that. I think we have the pieces around them to make that work.

What we really need is for Storr to get into a groove with playing off of DH and KJ, because those two are willing and effective passers when at their best. He needs to be our go to guy. I do not think we want it to be HD, but maybe I am wrong and he will develop that over the summer.

HD was very good last year. Almost nobody spends time with Self and doesn't get better. I expect that we will see an improved HD.

Self gets #3 next year. Place your bets now.
The problem is that I felt that optimistic LAST year!

I just hope, with Storr, that he can be a guy who can get buckets on his own. Don’t need big numbers. Just someone who can get his when our stuff is stalling.

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 1:22 pm
by DeletedUser
jfish26 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 12:34 pm
DeletedUser wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:48 am
jfish26 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:37 am

I don’t think we can (in the context of rebounding anyway) call this team athletic, particularly in the frontcourt.

Hunter and Zach are minus athletes. KJ’s athleticism has yet to translate to even average rebounding. And lord knows what (or how much) we’ll get out of Bidunga.
Rebounding will be a key to our success. Defensive rebounding.

Bidunga will play 10-12mpg at most, unless we find a way to play he and Hunter together. Which seems unlikely at this point, but Self and Co. have all summer to try to get Bidunga ready for that.

I think it's almost a certainty that HD plays 30mpg. Same with KJ. Same with DH. I am good with that. I think we have the pieces around them to make that work.

What we really need is for Storr to get into a groove with playing off of DH and KJ, because those two are willing and effective passers when at their best. He needs to be our go to guy. I do not think we want it to be HD, but maybe I am wrong and he will develop that over the summer.

HD was very good last year. Almost nobody spends time with Self and doesn't get better. I expect that we will see an improved HD.

Self gets #3 next year. Place your bets now.
The problem is that I felt that optimistic LAST year!

I just hope, with Storr, that he can be a guy who can get buckets on his own. Don’t need big numbers. Just someone who can get his when our stuff is stalling.
Agree. He and Zeke need to be able to do that.

That, or HD needs to take a huge step when it comes to throwing it to him when we need it most.

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 9:55 pm
by randylahey
jfish26 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:37 am
randylahey wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 1:13 pm I wouldn't worry about rebounding. We have a deep athletic team. These guys are competing for minutes. They will be fresh and competing for minutes. They'll be going after rebounds
I don’t think we can (in the context of rebounding anyway) call this team athletic, particularly in the frontcourt.

Hunter and Zach are minus athletes. KJ’s athleticism has yet to translate to even average rebounding. And lord knows what (or how much) we’ll get out of Bidunga.
Hunter isn't athletic, but led the big 12 in rebounding. He's over 7 foot and understands positioning. everyone else is athletic and versatile. We have a big group of long athletic guys competing with eachother for minutes, and the depth for guys to be rested. You bet your ass they'll be rebounding hard

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 9:35 am
by jfish26
randylahey wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 9:55 pm
jfish26 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:37 am
randylahey wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 1:13 pm I wouldn't worry about rebounding. We have a deep athletic team. These guys are competing for minutes. They will be fresh and competing for minutes. They'll be going after rebounds
I don’t think we can (in the context of rebounding anyway) call this team athletic, particularly in the frontcourt.

Hunter and Zach are minus athletes. KJ’s athleticism has yet to translate to even average rebounding. And lord knows what (or how much) we’ll get out of Bidunga.
Hunter isn't athletic, but led the big 12 in rebounding. He's over 7 foot and understands positioning. everyone else is athletic and versatile. We have a big group of long athletic guys competing with eachother for minutes, and the depth for guys to be rested. You bet your ass they'll be rebounding hard
That’s all fine, as far as it goes, but it’s not actually responsive to what I said.

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 12:22 pm
by mjl2
Robinson committed to Kentucky.
Seems like we're probably done? Unless Self takes a run at Wooga Poplar.

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 7:55 pm
by KJHGUY
mjl2 wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 12:22 pm Robinson committed to Kentucky.
Seems like we're probably done? Unless Self takes a run at Wooga Poplar.
Self could have something up his sleeve

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 8:04 pm
by DeletedUser
So....

Starters:
DH
Elmarko
Storr
KJ
HD

Bench:
Mayo
Griffen
Bidunga
McDowell

Deep bench:
Clemence
Passmore

I can dig it.

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 8:06 pm
by ousdahl
That’d be rad if Elmarko is ready enough to start.

He has the benefit of a year in the system. Plus already started like half a season anyway.

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 8:15 pm
by DeletedUser
ousdahl wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 8:06 pm That’d be rad if Elmarko is ready enough to start.
Mayo Griffen Elmarko. Toss up at that spot.

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 8:17 pm
by KUTradition
that’s a good battle to have

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 8:25 pm
by AlOerter
Griffen seems like a Bill Self kind of guy. Bill tends to give up a little on offense in exchange for a lock down defender, although last year may have swayed him in the other direction a little.

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 10:24 pm
by TDub
DeletedUser wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 8:15 pm
ousdahl wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 8:06 pm That’d be rad if Elmarko is ready enough to start.
Mayo Griffen Elmarko. Toss up at that spot.
I think Griffen starts but, all depends on who works hardest over the summer I suppose

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 10:40 pm
by ousdahl
in two years at Bama, Griffen .354 on 325 attempts - .301 on 136 in '23 and .392 on 189 last year

in 23 at St. Johns, Storr .404 on 94 attempts
in 24 at Wiscy, Storr .320 on 150 attempts

considering how bad this lineup needs shooting, kinda expect both to start

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 10:45 pm
by TDub
well yea, Storr is starting, I don't think anyone was debating that part

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 7:02 am
by DeletedUser
TDub wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 10:45 pm well yea, Storr is starting, I don't think anyone was debating that part
100%.


I have Elmarko starting at the moment, simply due to familiarity, but I would not expect him to be the closer. Griffen or Mayo likely the closer at that spot due to shooting.

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 3:00 pm
by Overlander
I am looking forward to sophomore Elmarko

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:06 pm
by ousdahl
Lots of new guys arriving on campus today

Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:07 pm
by ousdahl
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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:08 pm
by ousdahl
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Re: 2024/2025 Lineup

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:09 pm
by ousdahl
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