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Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:47 pm
by TDub
so yea...I wasn't wrong.

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:51 pm
by ousdahl
ok.

well then, could you please explain how it's out of touch with reality to view US policy as hypocritical?

Do you mean to suggest the more realistic view is to regard US policy as something other than hypocritical?

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:03 pm
by MICHHAWK
i think i read somewhere. that outside of puerto rico, puerto ricans and russian bots. mostly no one gives hardly any thought to puerto rico hardly ever at all. except those looking for a cheap week at a cheap all inclusive.

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:09 pm
by Overlander
Puerto Rico is an amazing place

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:13 pm
by jhawks99
I've been there and have friends there. Overlander is right, it is an amazing place. Some of us care about things outside of our own back yards.

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:16 pm
by MICHHAWK
that is not germane to the subject.

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:22 pm
by jhawks99
You not caring about anything seems germane to the subject.

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:39 pm
by ousdahl

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:59 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:51 pm ok.

well then, could you please explain how it's out of touch with reality to view US policy as hypocritical?

Do you mean to suggest the more realistic view is to regard US policy as something other than hypocritical?
youre attempting to force a comparison between 30 people in 1977 and Russia rolling tanks in to Ukrainian territory and bombing apartments in 2022.

that is way out of touch with reality.

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:10 pm
by ousdahl
Where’d I say anything about Russian tanks? Or bombing apartments?

Speaking of out of touch with reality…

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:14 pm
by TDub
" I wonder what kinda shape Puerto Rico would be in if we threw resources at them as quickly as we have for Ukraine."

you're trying to shoehorn these two issues together where they dont fit. 30 people in 1977....We are giving aid to Ukraine because they are being invaded by Russia (in case you missed that part).

Either youre trying to make some sort of ridiculous comparison between the two issues.....Or, Illy is right and you have no idea what the point actually is but it looked anti establishment and cool on tweeter so you jumped on it.... I dont know which

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:36 pm
by ousdahl
sooo nothing about Russian tanks nor apartment bombings, then?

either you're trying to make some sort of ridiculous comparison between the two issues....or you have no idea what the point actually is but decided to put words in my mouth for the sake of arguing with the boogeyman in your head.

hint: my point is exactly what I said my point is, and is not whatever that wild imagination of yours came up with about tanks and apartments

oh, and just a friendly heads up bro - not sure you're gonna get far with anything around here when the basis of your argument is, "Illy is right...."

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:51 pm
by TDub
Who brought up Ukraine? Me? Nah.

and yea you're right, you're killing it with you're statements and rants. Join the debate team, you're a pro. I think you've got everyone believing now.

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:16 pm
by Deleted User 863
How do you even come across a tweet from a person with 52 followers?

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:10 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:36 pm sooo nothing about Russian tanks nor apartment bombings, then?

either you're trying to make some sort of ridiculous comparison between the two issues....or you have no idea what the point actually is but decided to put words in my mouth for the sake of arguing with the boogeyman in your head.

hint: my point is exactly what I said my point is, and is not whatever that wild imagination of yours came up with about tanks and apartments

oh, and just a friendly heads up bro - not sure you're gonna get far with anything around here when the basis of your argument is, "Illy is right...."
You are calling US foreign policy "hypocritical" because the policies in 2022 are opposite of an action taken in the 1970s.

You throw serious things around casually and get bent out of shape when people call them out as ridiculous and then don't listen to the explanation of why they are ridiculous.

Stop reading your Twitter feed thinking "which kcrim thread could I throw this into?"

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:52 am
by ousdahl
sigh.

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:31 am
by TDub
when everyone you meet is an asshole....

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:13 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:52 amsigh.
My reaction to a lot of your posts like this. There are plenty of things to call out the US for; having a 2022 foreign policy that is inconsistent with 1970s actions is not one of them.

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:10 pm
by TDub
The US is far far from perfect and can be chastised for any number of hypocritical stances and actions. None of that is really relevant as a rebuttal to the current and ongoing invasion and civilian targeting in Ukraine.

Re: No One Cares Because Nothing Matters Anymore

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:44 pm
by ousdahl
you keep bringing up civilian targeting, when I keep trying to explain that wasn't my point here.

like I've said all along, for this discussion I only mention Ukraine in the context of wishing we'd spend on infrastructure for Puerto Rico as quickly as we spend on weapons for the proxy war. If it helps, take Ukraine out of that, and instead use Iraq, or Afghanistan, or Syria, or anywhere else we like to warmonger.

It's a comment more than anything on our own imperialism.