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Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:23 pm
by ousdahl
I would celebrate the fuck out of Yom Kippur, if it was a federal holiday.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:25 pm
by PhDhawk
Easter is a more important religious holiday in the Christian faith. It is not a federal holiday and I'd argue, that while it does have some secular traditions and celebrations: Easter eggs, baskets, etc. It hasn't done so to the extent that Christmas has.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:27 pm
by PhDhawk
ousdahl wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:23 pm I would celebrate the fuck out of Yom Kippur, if it was a federal holiday.
You would fast and remain in prayer all day, while wearing white, and go to synagogue?

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:29 pm
by ousdahl
If they’d let me in.


Otherwise, I’d just spend the day PMing gutter back and forth.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:30 pm
by TDub
You'd drink PBRs and listen to Motley Crue with some dude named beaver

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:30 pm
by TDub
Not that thats all bad.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:30 pm
by TDub
Mainly just the PBR part

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:33 pm
by ousdahl
Yeah, I’m not big on peebers.

Too bready for me.

If I want something that’s gonna sit in my gut like a brick, I’d rather just drink craft beers.

Otherwise, for the sake of my gut, and of the fact it’s been so damn hot and dry here, light beer. preferably in a bottle, it just hits different. Especially when served on ice…like 6 at a time…in a bucket…

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:34 pm
by ousdahl
Shit, I hope the sat shack isn’t closed on Yom Kippur too

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:38 pm
by TDub
The back door doesnt lock. We'll be ok. Save a bucket for me for when i get odf work tho

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:44 pm
by Mjl
PhDhawk wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:20 pm I think Yom Kippur is entirely a religious holiday. I don't know anyone who's not a practicing member of the Jewish faith who celebrates Yom Kippur. I am not aware of any secular celebrations or traditions that apply that take place in the US.
In our area public schools get Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah off

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:57 pm
by PhDhawk
Mjl wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:44 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:20 pm I think Yom Kippur is entirely a religious holiday. I don't know anyone who's not a practicing member of the Jewish faith who celebrates Yom Kippur. I am not aware of any secular celebrations or traditions that apply that take place in the US.
In our area public schools get Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah off
When I lived in CT they did too. Because there are a lot more Jewish people there, but they (in my experience) celebrated it as a religious holiday and the gentiles just had the day off school they didn't dye eggs or go on sleigh rides.

Ousdahl wants to make an argument, (based on what he's posted) that the US makes Christian holidays into federal holidays, but that really isn't the case, as is evident by the holiest holiday not being treated as a federal holiday, and Christmas is only because it's become a secular and cultural holiday in addition to being a religious one.

It's a matter of pragmatism. Nearly everyone in the US celebrates Christmas, at least in some form, regardless of faith. We celebrate the new year on Jan. 1 not as a nod to Pope Gregory who introduced the Gregorian calendar, but because that's the calendar Americans, and most of the world, use. Sure, it started out based on religion, but it's not anymore. So, he can try and play "gotcha" by pointing out that we don't use the chinese calendar, or Buddhist calendar to celebrate the new year, but it isn't for religious reasons...at least not in the past several hundred years.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:00 pm
by twocoach
TDub wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:47 pm At least everyone gets that day off.

Columbus day and presidents day are worthless. To a slightly lesser extent so are veterans day and MLK.
Yeah, everyone gets Christmas off unless you work at a grocery store, a movie theater, a restaurant....

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:01 pm
by ousdahl
Do you think Christmas would have become a secular holiday on its own, if not for being a religious holiday first?

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:01 pm
by twocoach
PhDhawk wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:25 pm Easter is a more important religious holiday in the Christian faith. It is not a federal holiday and I'd argue, that while it does have some secular traditions and celebrations: Easter eggs, baskets, etc. It hasn't done so to the extent that Christmas has.
And it is always celebrated on a Sunday, when the vast majority of federal institutions are already closed.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:08 pm
by TDub
twocoach wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:00 pm
TDub wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:47 pm At least everyone gets that day off.

Columbus day and presidents day are worthless. To a slightly lesser extent so are veterans day and MLK.
Yeah, everyone gets Christmas off unless you work at a grocery store, a movie theater, a restaurant....
97% of people. We've been over this.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:11 pm
by PhDhawk
ousdahl wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:01 pm Do you think Christmas would have become a secular holiday on its own, if not for being a religious holiday first?
No.

But that's irrelevant in 2021.

You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.

If Ramadan becomes a thing where Americans all go on diets and work out daily in like intense ways, and then at the end of the 40 days we celebrate with a Rock-esque cheat meal, I'm in.

But, until then, there's no reason it should be a federal holiday.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:12 pm
by ousdahl
“I think it’s a shame yall gotta work on Christmas. Why do they make yall do that?”

ummm cuz folks like yall still expect to be served?

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:32 pm
by Overlander
ousdahl wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:12 pm “I think it’s a shame yall gotta work on Christmas. Why do they make yall do that?”

ummm cuz folks like yall still expect to be served?
This.

Plus, fuck your Black Friday bullshit.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:34 pm
by PhDhawk
Overlander wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:32 pm
ousdahl wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:12 pm “I think it’s a shame yall gotta work on Christmas. Why do they make yall do that?”

ummm cuz folks like yall still expect to be served?
This.

Plus, fuck your Black Friday bullshit.
You should only get the day off if you sign a contract agreeing not go shopping that day.