Kansas Crimson

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:21 pm if you can’t even convince your own family…

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/robert-f ... e-13201857

”We want an America filled with hope and bound together by a shared vision of a brighter future, a future defined by individual freedom, economic promise and national pride.”

"We believe in Harris and Walz.

"Our brother Bobby's decision to endorse Trump today is a betrayal of the values that our father and our family hold most dear.”

"It is a sad ending to a sad story."

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:47 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:21 pm if you can’t even convince your own family…

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/robert-f ... e-13201857

”We want an America filled with hope and bound together by a shared vision of a brighter future, a future defined by individual freedom, economic promise and national pride.”

"We believe in Harris and Walz.

"Our brother Bobby's decision to endorse Trump today is a betrayal of the values that our father and our family hold most dear.”

"It is a sad ending to a sad story."

Echoes of the stark contrast between the RNC and DNC.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rnc-speakers-2024/

I will admit to not knowing (or having the desire to look into) whether each such luminary along the lines of "Tom Homan, former acting ICE director" was a member of the Trump administration or a prior R administration (although "acting" probably gives off a clue).

But the fact that Trump does not have the support of ANY former R President or VP, or (as far as I can tell) ANY Cabinet-level official from any other R administration (or even from more than a handful of his OWN), is certainly signifying.

To say nothing of his or any former First or Second Lady. At a time when the Trump/Vance ticket is getting (justifiably!) killed for its outlook on women's rights and roles.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:00 pmgiggle

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 2:03 pm we haven't had a "good choice" in 20 years.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:09 pm flailing

giggle

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:02 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 2:03 pm we haven't had a "good choice" in 20 years.

Why wasn't Hillary a good choice in 2016?
Why wasn't Obama a good choice in 2012 (or 2008). Why wasn't Romney a good choice in 2012?
Why wasn't McCain a good choice in 2008?
What wasn't GW Bush a good choice in 2004? Why wasn't Kerry a good choice in 2004?

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:12 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:09 pm flailing

giggle

Losing bigly.

Lolololol!

zsn wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:15 pm

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:02 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 2:03 pm we haven't had a "good choice" in 20 years.

Why wasn't Hillary a good choice in 2016?
Why wasn't Obama a good choice in 2012 (or 2008). Why wasn't Romney a good choice in 2012?
Why wasn't McCain a good choice in 2008?
What wasn't GW Bush a good choice in 2004? Why wasn't Kerry a good choice in 2004?

Great points Gutter!

Add, Biden was a great choice in 2020.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has dropped out of the presidential race, sort of, leaving his rocky Independent campaign behind and aligning the iconically Democrat name with the Republican party of Donald Trump.

“In an honest system, I believe that I would have won the election,” he said today, running counter to polls but sounding very Trumpian, with talks of “sham” primaries and a “palace coup” against Joe Biden. He castigated Vice President and presidential candidate Kamala Harris for not yet granting media interviews, a common Republican talking point in recent weeks.

Kennedy didn’t quite end his campaign, but says he’s merely suspending it and will remain on ballots in some battleground states. While at one point insisting quixotically that it’s still possible he might end up in the White House, he also said, “In my heart, I no longer believe I have a realistic path to an electoral victory. I am not terminating my campaign. I am simply suspending it.”

At another speech in Arizona, Trump said of Kennedy’s endorsement, “That’s big. He’s a great guy, respected by everybody.”

Kennedy’s endorsement of the Republican candidate was not unexpected: Recent reports have him shopping around for a new side to play on, reaching out to both political parties and meeting with members of the Trump team. Kennedy’s campaign recently said he would make a statement on his “path forward” at today’s speech in Phoenix, Arizona. Trump is holding a rally in Glendale, Arizona, later today.

However unsurprising the endorsement is, from a historical perspective, rather remarkable, putting a man with the famously Blue family name into the Red. Today, Kennedy said the Democratic Party “had departed so dramatically from the core values that I grew up with.” He said the causes for his switch were “free speech, the war in Ukraine and the war on our children,” the latter stemming from his debunked anti-vaccine stances.

Although Kennedy encouraged his followers to vote Trump, he said in some states they could vote for either party. The logic was, to say the least, difficult to follow. A commenter on CNN called it “coo coo for Cocoa Puffs” and, quoting Mel Brooks’ Blazing Saddles, “authentic frontier gibberish.” The official response from the Democratic National Convention called the speech “a bizarre, rambling announcement,” with DNC senior advisor Mary Beth Cahill adding, “The more voters learned about RFK Jr. the less they liked him. Donald Trump isn’t earning an endorsement that’s going to help build support, he’s inheriting the baggage of a failed fringe candidate. Good riddance.”

Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:21 pm I didn't worry about Biden because of Harris. Trump really declined mentally so he is a dangerous demented sociopath with no restraining influences

KUTradition wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:39 am …Trump very well MAY be the better person to be President for me.



in what way(s), specifically?