Kansas Crimson

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:46 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:37 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:37 pm Meh.
If I was a teacher and all of a sudden my students were more concerned with making money than learning the subject, and I didn't need to teach anymore, early retirement might be appealing.

It’s a good thing you didn’t go to business school.





Or, for that matter, law school.

I mean, you know my general thoughts about lawyers so, yes, good thing.

If it makes you feel better, one of the (more ancillary) reasons I dropped out of law school is cuz I was tired of the BWW Chads and various other hungover country club types and their daily refrain of asking nothing more in class than, “ok whatever blah blah blah, will you just tell us what to memorize for the exam so we can get a good grade and score some high-paying job so we can continue to afford that country club membership once our dad stops paying?”


Also of note:

My nickname in law school was The Attractive Nuisance.

Self does give freshmen less benefit of a doubt for sure.
But that doesn't mean they aren't provided opportunities to thrive.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:37 pm Tarik Black was a successful transfer imo. Different times though.

Yeah maybe. He played 13 minutes per game. Averaged 5 pts, 4 rebounds. Granted, he played behind Joel embiid

His rookie nba numbers were just as good tho

But pdub, despite the 2 exceptions hunter and Kevin, there is a long list of transfers here that didn't really live up the expectations or had a hard time adjusting to self

tb was for sure a success.

the other Kevin wasn't terrible either

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:11 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:50 am i really think tunes would be different had 1) arterio not fucked up, and/or 2) Timberlake would’ve produced at the level that was anticipated

imagine just having Timberlake have a season like knecht or spencer

We could have gotten Spencer or knecht and there is no guarantee that they flourish here like they did at uconn and Tennessee

Self does not exactly create a very "nurturing environment" for freshman or transfers. I've seen too many come in confident and aggressive and within a matter of weeks their confidence has been broken while self bends them to his will

Knect or spencer come in here and start getting beat on defense or taking shots at the wrong point in the offense, and self might have been benching them too which fucks with a players psyche

"Self does not exactly create a very "nurturing environment" for freshman or transfers."

This is mostly a made-up argument that gets rolled out when fans are frustrated by how players are playing. "Self didn't give this other guy a chance" is a consistently lame argument that seems to roll out whenever someone plays poorly. There have been plenty of transfers and freshmen who have been given ample minutes and chances to play through their issues. There have also been some of each who had too many issues and not enough good points and were not good enough to play over better players.

ky was for sure a success.

Johnny Furphy was a freshman and got all the minutes he could handle.
Hunter Dickinson was a transfer and got all the minutes he could handle.

I've never said he didn't give anybody a chance. He gives everyone a chance. We've just seen mixed results to his short leash coaching method in the transfer portal era

With roster turnover being more prevalent these days, he may need to let players play through their mistakes a bit more, especially in the first couple months of the season. And let guys settle in and get comfortable

i think the "transfer portal era" will be short lived.

so maybe HCBS is the smart one. not even trying to adjust.

let the mountain come to you.

Could help get more out of guys like yesefu or Timberlake. It's not like they were the 12th guy on the roster and we could afford to have them ride the pine. We NEEDED them to be able to come in and be effective, but they were playing with broken confidence. Could be the same way with future transfers we need production from

Same goes for freshman. Letting them play through mistakes just a bit more might keep them engaged and in the program instead of the portal. Used to be you could whip them into shape, make them ride the pine and a year or 2 down the road they've learned and are ready. That doesn't appear to be an option anymore

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:53 pm i think the "transfer portal era" will be short lived.

so maybe HCBS is the smart one. not even trying to adjust.

let the mountain come to you.

I wish, but doesn't appear that is the direction we are going

yesufu FG% at WSU - 36.8%.
1.8 assists to 1 turnover.
sElFS FaULt!

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:01 pm

Back2Lawrence wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:47 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:00 am

It was bad luck, yes. But it's really not GREAT that we're having the exact same conversations today as we were having at this time in 2019. I'm aware that we've had 1.5 title-ish things since then, but it's pretty goddamn obnoxious that we made the same mistakes in such a short time period later.

yes. and it's on self. @$10mil a year, does he get mulligans?

What exactly does a getting a mulligan mean? I think he’d have to have TWO more terrible (by our standards) seasons in a row before the seat would even begin to warm. But I definitely do not think he’s immune from harsh criticism.

You golf. A mulligan is an attempt to mAke a bad shot better. Of course he’s got all the rope he needs, I was speaking more to many people giving him a pass without seeming accountability

Back2Lawrence wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 6:45 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:01 pm

Back2Lawrence wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:47 am

yes. and it's on self. @$10mil a year, does he get mulligans?

What exactly does a getting a mulligan mean? I think he’d have to have TWO more terrible (by our standards) seasons in a row before the seat would even begin to warm. But I definitely do not think he’s immune from harsh criticism.

You golf. A mulligan is an attempt to mAke a bad shot better. Of course he’s got all the rope he needs, I was speaking more to many people giving him a pass without seeming accountability

I get it - just couldn't tell if you were calling for blood. Because what does accountability mean here? We will do...what exactly if he isn't a better boy next year?

Ok, I'll be honest, I was looking forward to the Women's game between Iowa and LSU.
I haven't been disappointed.
I am not a big fan of her or her team but when Caitlin Clark is on - she really is incredible and fun to watch. She just took over the game.
I'm much less of a fan of Kim Mulkey and when she is off - she is fun to watch.

Caitlin Clark is good but still needs ink