Kansas Crimson

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:38 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:32 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:27 pm

We have been hearing the "Trump is headed to prison" stories for 5 years.
He is no closer to prison now as he was then. A sub servant judicial and an accommodating House and Senate are all he needs to snuff this away.

I strongly disagree on “no closer.”

So you feel strongly that, should Harris win, the Democrats would be ok with sending Trump to prison? To make him a martyr for the cause?

Politicians should have nothing to do with that decision. The courts and judges should be in control of that. Any politician, Republican or Democrat, who interferes with that should be removed form office.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:42 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:38 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:32 pm

I strongly disagree on “no closer.”

So you feel strongly that, should Harris win, the Democrats would be ok with sending Trump to prison? To make him a martyr for the cause?

Politicians should have nothing to do with that decision. The courts and judges should be in control of that. Any politician, Republican or Democrat, who interferes with that should be removed form office.

I don't disagree.
Trump should already BE in prison. That is why I am concerned.

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:30 pm

Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:29 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:58 pm

I wonder what attorney is going to get stiffed by Trump for not winning that case?

A better question is who will be disbarred for filing frivolous and malign lawsuits?

Small price to pay to be a legal expert on Fox News for 10 years.

I genuinely don’t know where I personally would draw the line on lies as protected speech.

Talk about things the founders couldn’t have possibly anticipated; developments in firearms have been fairly iterative, for example, while developments in the acquisition and dissemination of information have been profoundly transformative on a global scale.

I would probably lean toward an extremely high threshold for criminal culpability (liberty on the line), paired with (1) a very low threshold for civil liability (money on the line) and (2) a near-absolute right for private enterprise to make and police whatever speech standards they’d like as to people who choose to engage.

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:38 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:32 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:27 pm

We have been hearing the "Trump is headed to prison" stories for 5 years.
He is no closer to prison now as he was then. A sub servant judicial and an accommodating House and Senate are all he needs to snuff this away.

I strongly disagree on “no closer.”

So you feel strongly that, should Harris win, the Democrats would be ok with sending Trump to prison? To make him a martyr for the cause?

I do. I think he’ll be a martyr either way.

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:08 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:01 am

defixione wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:45 am Nailed it.

Pretty amazing. I agree with all of that, yikes. Trump represents the untouchable whiteness above all others that some everyday white people wish that they could experience. He has failed forward at every opportunity and that is the envy of many who do not possess the ability to succeed on their merits.

Great description of Psych!

Funny, I was just thinking the same of you.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:52 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:08 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:01 am

Pretty amazing. I agree with all of that, yikes. Trump represents the untouchable whiteness above all others that some everyday white people wish that they could experience. He has failed forward at every opportunity and that is the envy of many who do not possess the ability to succeed on their merits.

Great description of Psych!

Funny, I was just thinking the same of you.

No, you weren't.

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:45 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:42 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:38 pm

So you feel strongly that, should Harris win, the Democrats would be ok with sending Trump to prison? To make him a martyr for the cause?

Politicians should have nothing to do with that decision. The courts and judges should be in control of that. Any politician, Republican or Democrat, who interferes with that should be removed form office.

I don't disagree.
Trump should already BE in prison. That is why I am concerned.

Courts get delayed all the time for regular people, too. I am only concerned if Trump wins as that is the only way that he is able to avoid consequences of some kind. Is it possible the justice system feels there is no way to jail a former President safely? Possibly. But that's a different problem to be tackled hopefully later this month.

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:17 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:52 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:08 am

Great description of Psych!

Funny, I was just thinking the same of you.

No, you weren't.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you’re the only one who believes the Alpha male myth you’ve created in your head.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:07 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:17 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:52 pm

Funny, I was just thinking the same of you.

No, you weren't.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you’re the only one who believes the Alpha male myth you’ve created in your head.

Then why do you keep bringing it up?

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:25 pm Is it possible the justice system feels there is no way to jail a former President safely? Possibly.

This.

I don't think he'll ever spend meaningful time behind bars.

i don't think anyone thinks he should spend meaningful time behind bars.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:19 pm i don't think anyone thinks he should spend meaningful time behind bars.

I think he should sit in prison until he dies of embarassment from the status of his real hair.

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:09 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:07 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:17 pm

No, you weren't.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you’re the only one who believes the Alpha male myth you’ve created in your head.

Then why do you keep bringing it up?

Because you keep being a little bitch and making passive-aggressive comments at and about me. Your bully mentality tells you that you’re entitled to treat others however you want without repercussions, but, as I’ve made clear, that’s not happening as long as I’m around. You dish it out, you get it back. Either shut the fuck up as it pertains to me or get used to the backlash.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:21 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:19 pm i don't think anyone thinks he should spend meaningful time behind bars.

I think he should sit in prison until he dies of embarassment from the status of his real hair.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:31 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:21 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:19 pm i don't think anyone thinks he should spend meaningful time behind bars.

I think he should sit in prison until he dies of embarassment from the status of his real hair.

Whoever does his hair should be in prison

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:27 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:09 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:07 pm

I hate to burst your bubble, but you’re the only one who believes the Alpha male myth you’ve created in your head.

Then why do you keep bringing it up?

Because you keep being a little bitch and making passive-aggressive comments at and about me. Your bully mentality tells you that you’re entitled to treat others however you want without repercussions, but, as I’ve made clear, that’s not happening as long as I’m around. You dish it out, you get it back. Either shut the fuck up as it pertains to me or get used to the backlash.

Are you crying?

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:33 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:27 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:09 pm

Then why do you keep bringing it up?

Because you keep being a little bitch and making passive-aggressive comments at and about me. Your bully mentality tells you that you’re entitled to treat others however you want without repercussions, but, as I’ve made clear, that’s not happening as long as I’m around. You dish it out, you get it back. Either shut the fuck up as it pertains to me or get used to the backlash.

Are you crying?

I’m realizing that I’m going to have to take your facade apart piece by piece - just like I did before - until the real you - the one you claim to hate - the one who wrote my tagline - is on full display once again.

You said you were sorry.

You said you wanted to do better/be better.

Apparently not.

So be it.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:49 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:33 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:27 pm

Because you keep being a little bitch and making passive-aggressive comments at and about me. Your bully mentality tells you that you’re entitled to treat others however you want without repercussions, but, as I’ve made clear, that’s not happening as long as I’m around. You dish it out, you get it back. Either shut the fuck up as it pertains to me or get used to the backlash.

Are you crying?

I’m realizing that I’m going to have to take your facade apart piece by piece - just like I did before - until the real you - the one you claim to hate - the one who wrote my tagline - is on full display once again.

You said you were sorry.

You said you wanted to do better/be better.

Apparently not.

So be it.

get a grip, psycho

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:49 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:33 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:27 pm

Because you keep being a little bitch and making passive-aggressive comments at and about me. Your bully mentality tells you that you’re entitled to treat others however you want without repercussions, but, as I’ve made clear, that’s not happening as long as I’m around. You dish it out, you get it back. Either shut the fuck up as it pertains to me or get used to the backlash.

Are you crying?

I’m realizing that I’m going to have to take your facade apart piece by piece - just like I did before - until the real you - the one you claim to hate - the one who wrote my tagline - is on full display once again.

You said you were sorry.

You said you wanted to do better/be better.

Apparently not.

So be it.

By way of contrast, I'm not the one who feels the need to respond to every post someone else makes”
Psych- Every Single Time

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 4:38 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:49 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:33 pm

Are you crying?

I’m realizing that I’m going to have to take your facade apart piece by piece - just like I did before - until the real you - the one you claim to hate - the one who wrote my tagline - is on full display once again.

You said you were sorry.

You said you wanted to do better/be better.

Apparently not.

So be it.

By way of contrast, I'm not the one who feels the need to respond to every post someone else makes”
Psych- Every Single Time

And as you so eloquently put it, keep my name out of your posts.