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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:58 pm
by ousdahl
Also just saw a headline that YouTube is cracking down on anti-vax content
As if lobster wasn’t already banned enough.
(And not a moment too soon?)
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:07 pm
by randylahey
If they are pushing an antivax narrative i strongly disagree with that. If they are pushing a pro choice make your own medical decisions I strongly agree with it
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:25 pm
by twocoach
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:05 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:29 am
NotGutterGutter wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:52 am
Right or wrong, I feel the main objective of their push was to be assholes. Medical privacy or not.
Why would and should anyone be ashamed/embarrassed to admit they were vaccinated?
As far as Hannity and Carlson, two questions. 1) What Republican political office do they hold? 2) When did Carlson say he was vaccinated?
I don't watch much Tucker but i have seen him reference that he is vaccinated numerous times on his show.
Yeah he is. He kind of has my attitude towards vaccines. We both are vaccinated. Both encourage people to do so, if its their choice. But both are against this totalitarian mandates of forcing people into medical treatments. Cause wtf
Tucker carlson terrifies democrats. He is a free thinker and challenges other people to do the same. Sometimes he goes overboard and I dont necessarily agree with everything he says. But he believes in the constitution, freedoms, and understands why we need to protect them. This country desperately needs more voices like that. People here take for granted how good they have things. It wasn't easy to establish a country like this
Please, he doesn't terrorize anyone. He is a clown.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:25 pm
by randylahey
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:58 pm
Also just saw a headline that YouTube is cracking down on anti-vax content
As if lobster wasn’t already banned enough.
(And not a moment too soon?)
Could be a good thing. Theres a lot of stupid shit on YouTube
Could be a bad thing. Big tech companies are already facing a lot of backlash for the way they censor peoples right to free speech. They hire "fact checkers" who are really activists trying to remove content or idea that contradict theirs
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:26 pm
by randylahey
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:25 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:05 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:29 am
I don't watch much Tucker but i have seen him reference that he is vaccinated numerous times on his show.
Yeah he is. He kind of has my attitude towards vaccines. We both are vaccinated. Both encourage people to do so, if its their choice. But both are against this totalitarian mandates of forcing people into medical treatments. Cause wtf
Tucker carlson terrifies democrats. He is a free thinker and challenges other people to do the same. Sometimes he goes overboard and I dont necessarily agree with everything he says. But he believes in the constitution, freedoms, and understands why we need to protect them. This country desperately needs more voices like that. People here take for granted how good they have things. It wasn't easy to establish a country like this
Please, he doesn't terrorize anyone. He is a clown.
Free thinking people in general terrify the democratic platform. The last thing they want is a nation of free thinkers. Harder to control
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:31 pm
by ousdahl
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:07 pm
If they are pushing an antivax narrative i strongly disagree with that. If they are pushing a pro choice make your own medical decisions I strongly agree with it
where is that line drawn?
Between being “make my own decisions” and just being anti-vax.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:31 pm
by ousdahl
And for real how often is “make my own decisions” invoked for other medical anything?
“Sir, you have cancer, but the good news is the tumor can be easily removed.” Agree to disagree!
“Ma’am, your appendix burst, and if wr don’t operate soon, you’re life is in danger” BUT MAH RIGHTS.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:34 pm
by MICHHAWK
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:26 pm
Free thinking people in general terrify the democratic platform. The last thing they want is a nation of free thinkers. Harder to control
todays democratic party is miles away from the democratic party i grew up with. unrecognizable.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:39 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:09 pm
What Fox News’s incentive for pushing anti-vax propaganda again?
Is there more to it than just the fostering of petty divisiveness?
Ratings.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:45 pm
by twocoach
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:26 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:25 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:05 pm
Yeah he is. He kind of has my attitude towards vaccines. We both are vaccinated. Both encourage people to do so, if its their choice. But both are against this totalitarian mandates of forcing people into medical treatments. Cause wtf
Tucker carlson terrifies democrats. He is a free thinker and challenges other people to do the same. Sometimes he goes overboard and I dont necessarily agree with everything he says. But he believes in the constitution, freedoms, and understands why we need to protect them. This country desperately needs more voices like that. People here take for granted how good they have things. It wasn't easy to establish a country like this
Please, he doesn't terrorize anyone. He is a clown.
Free thinking people in general terrify the democratic platform. The last thing they want is a nation of free thinkers. Harder to control
He isn't a free thinker. He barely qualifies as a thinker at all. At best, his thought process is "what sounds edgy that my audience who isn't paying that close of attention will think sounds smart?" He routinely contradicts himself and talks in circles.
If you took a written transcript of most of his things, you'd read it and think that he's had a stroke.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:50 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:31 pm
And for real how often is “make my own decisions” invoked for other medical anything?
“Sir, you have cancer, but the good news is the tumor can be easily removed.” Agree to disagree!
“Ma’am, your appendix burst, and if wr don’t operate soon, you’re life is in danger” BUT MAH RIGHTS.
what? you can choose not to treat cancer
or to treat it homeopathically
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:51 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:31 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:07 pm
If they are pushing an antivax narrative i strongly disagree with that. If they are pushing a pro choice make your own medical decisions I strongly agree with it
where is that line drawn?
Between being “make my own decisions” and just being anti-vax.
its a pretty easy distinction.
hey..heres this option...take it or dont...your choice.
hey..heres this option..don't take it or you're an idiot.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:58 pm
by twocoach
TDub wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:50 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:31 pm
And for real how often is “make my own decisions” invoked for other medical anything?
“Sir, you have cancer, but the good news is the tumor can be easily removed.” Agree to disagree!
“Ma’am, your appendix burst, and if wr don’t operate soon, you’re life is in danger” BUT MAH RIGHTS.
what? you can choose not to treat cancer
or to treat it homeopathically
Correct. Both of my dead aunts chose that approach.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:13 pm
by PhDhawk
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:58 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:50 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:31 pm
And for real how often is “make my own decisions” invoked for other medical anything?
“Sir, you have cancer, but the good news is the tumor can be easily removed.” Agree to disagree!
“Ma’am, your appendix burst, and if wr don’t operate soon, you’re life is in danger” BUT MAH RIGHTS.
what? you can choose not to treat cancer
or to treat it homeopathically
Correct. Both of my dead aunts chose that approach.
Of course a big difference between that and not getting vaccinated is that Cancer isn't contagious. You're not putting other people at unnecessary risk by not receiving cancer treatment.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:15 pm
by twocoach
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:13 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:58 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:50 pm
what? you can choose not to treat cancer
or to treat it homeopathically
Correct. Both of my dead aunts chose that approach.
Of course a big difference between that and not getting vaccinated is that Cancer isn't contagious. You're not putting other people at unnecessary risk by not receiving cancer treatment.
Agreed. This notion that everything should be handled the same way is just adults trying to justify toddler behavior.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:17 pm
by zsn
TDub wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:51 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:31 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:07 pm
If they are pushing an antivax narrative i strongly disagree with that. If they are pushing a pro choice make your own medical decisions I strongly agree with it
where is that line drawn?
Between being “make my own decisions” and just being anti-vax.
its a pretty easy distinction.
hey..heres this option...take it or dont...your choice.
hey..heres this option..don't take it or you're an idiot.
The reason we’re here is because Society is too polite to take the latter option. In several cases “here is the prudent and science-based option. Or you can be an idiot and not take that option” is exactly the way to describe the situation (eg. vaccination, flat-earth).
Glad we are beginning to treat antivaxxers with the (lack of) respect they deserve. Give them their Darwin Award and make them go away.
Since someone brought it up, I don’t know who is more dangerous to society: antivaxxers or homeopathists
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:21 pm
by ousdahl
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:39 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:09 pm
What Fox News’s incentive for pushing anti-vax propaganda again?
Is there more to it than just the fostering of petty divisiveness?
Ratings.
Yea, it may be as simple as that.
Sigh.
My Qusdahl neck tat tho wonders if there’s some bigger game being played here.
Like Randy said, why have free thinkers when you can have so many voters consumed by misinformation instead.
And I’m sure plenty of Fox News viewers consider themselves free thinkers, so maybe the question becomes what constitutes a “free thinker?”
At the very least, it’s someone who develops a world view based upon more than just a for-profit news rag.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:21 pm
by MICHHAWK
zsn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:17 pm
Glad we are beginning to treat antivaxxers with the (lack of) respect they deserve.
as you go about your day to day, how do you know who is and who is not vaxxed. do they have to wear a sign where you live.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:28 pm
by TDub
zsn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:17 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:51 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:31 pm
where is that line drawn?
Between being “make my own decisions” and just being anti-vax.
its a pretty easy distinction.
hey..heres this option...take it or dont...your choice.
hey..heres this option..don't take it or you're an idiot.
The reason we’re here is because Society is too polite to take the latter option. In several cases “here is the prudent and science-based option. Or you can be an idiot and not take that option” is exactly the way to describe the situation (eg. vaccination, flat-earth).
Glad we are beginning to treat antivaxxers with the (lack of) respect they deserve. Give them their Darwin Award and make them go away.
Since someone brought it up, I don’t know who is more dangerous to society: antivaxxers or homeopathists
No. we got here because we are a country built on freedom and choice. Exactly how it should stay.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:39 pm
by jfish26
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:25 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:58 pm
Also just saw a headline that YouTube is cracking down on anti-vax content
As if lobster wasn’t already banned enough.
(And not a moment too soon?)
Could be a good thing. Theres a lot of stupid shit on YouTube
Could be a bad thing.
Big tech companies are already facing a lot of backlash for the way they censor peoples right to free speech. They hire "fact checkers" who are really activists trying to remove content or idea that contradict theirs
(Jesus fucking Christ)