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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:37 am
by randylahey
NotGutterGutter wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:38 am
randylahey wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:09 am
PhDhawk wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:56 am
The Nazis literally labeled the jews as disease carriers, claimed they were responsible for the spread of typhus. They tried to convince people they needed to cleanse the world of jews to cleanse and protect the population from disease. they often used propaganda like this against their political opponents. Have you ever researched history? It's important to learn from
And yet you probably voted for Trump. Amiright?
The fuck does that have to do with trump?? lol

I knew what a disaster Biden would be so yes. trump defends the constitution at least. and he wanted to lower taxes on america, not raise them. we've seen what that has caused (inflation running wild). but don't go labeling me a trumper MAGA boy. id take him over biden 100/100 times but he is far from my ideal candidate. ive been hoping for a strong 3rd party candidate to come along and for America to wake up and get that person elected. This 2 party political system has absolutely failed America. but its damn near impossible for someone to get elected with out backing from the dems/repubs. there is just too much corruption money and power built into that system already. It's going to take a mental revolution of the country to change it. are we there yet?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:44 am
by randylahey
pdub wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:43 am “that is the kind of shit the nazis were doing to the jews back in the day”

Ok.
Can we not with this?
My god.

The nazis imprisoned Jews, forced them into slave labor and murdered them by the millions.

What is happening is nothing like that.
Yes the things the nazis did were horrible. Before they were able to get there, they had to manipulate and coerce the masses, and gain a lot of power and control over the population. The nazis had effective ways of convincing people they were on the right side, which is mind boggling looking back. In case you don't know "nazi" is an abbreviated version "national socialist of germany"

So here were are in America decades the later, and we have our own governing body using the very same tactics that were effective. They do not have as sinister of intentions as Hitler obviously but the fact they are using the same tactics to gain control over the country shows how manipulative and power hungry they are. It's not worth over looking.

and just like the nazis they want you to do all these things "for your safety"... same exact philosophy

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:48 am
by randylahey
ousdahl wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:48 am
randylahey wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:30 pm
ousdahl wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:24 pm (I wonder how quickly we’d have vaccine mandates if covid only affected women)
Thats a very fucked up but interesting question lol. I see what u did there
Yea.

I guess I’m being my usual smartass and using the talking points from one to ironically illustrate the other.

Which is to say, beyond “my body my choice,” I dunno if there really are many parallels between the issues of abortion and vaccination.

The REAL irony is, how many anti-vaxxers also identify as “pro-life”
This thread needs a little more "usual smartass" and irony. I like it. some people (even though they mean well) take this shit wayyy too seriously

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:54 am
by ousdahl
Well, “pro-life” isn’t really pro-life so much as pro-forced birth or whatever, but that’s for another bored.

Or, trying to stay on point here, if pro-life was really pro-life, vaxxes would be such a no-brainer that we prob wouldn’t have any need to discuss whether mandates are necessary.

The whole “but yalls is ‘my choice’ about this one or that one” is mostly just some petty exercise in whataboutism.

Cuz at the end of the day, one is overwhelmingly a public health concern that affects everyone, with greater infrastructure and resource concerns; and the other is much more an individual reproductive concern that only affects females.

But go figure

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:55 am
by ousdahl
randylahey wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:48 am
ousdahl wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:48 am
randylahey wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:30 pm

Thats a very fucked up but interesting question lol. I see what u did there
Yea.

I guess I’m being my usual smartass and using the talking points from one to ironically illustrate the other.

Which is to say, beyond “my body my choice,” I dunno if there really are many parallels between the issues of abortion and vaccination.

The REAL irony is, how many anti-vaxxers also identify as “pro-life”
This thread needs a little more "usual smartass" and irony. I like it. some people (even though they mean well) take this shit wayyy too seriously
^^^^^

+1

also….





















penis.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:58 am
by ousdahl
like for real, damn near 500 pages and were only just now getting around to Shirley’s law? What kinda fucked up thread is this?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:31 am
by pdub
"and just like the nazis they want you to do all these things "for your safety"... same exact philosophy"

But it actually is for your safety.
You admit the vaccines work.
You got one.

What's the government's secret end plan? "We got em all to get pricked by a needle, and they have less of a chance of getting sick, NOW WE HAVE TOTAL CONTROL."

Pushing a vaccine that works, ( whatever degree you believe it does ) is vastly different than believing in a pure race and trying to exterminate the races that 'arent'.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:38 am
by pdub
No one, even whataboutism illy, will take you seriously if you continue to spew this Facebook/Youtube/parler nonsense comparing the rise of Hitlers NDSAP in Germany to Bidens Democratic party.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:56 am
by randylahey
pdub wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:38 am No one, even whataboutism illy, will take you seriously if you continue to spew this Facebook/Youtube/parler nonsense comparing the rise of Hitlers NDSAP in Germany to Bidens Democratic party.
I made one comment about comparing the tactics used. they are same same tactics. I dont think Biden is trying to make a master race or kill jews. I don't like Biden, I think that he is a puppet of the democratic party to an extent, and his party wants to control and regulate wayyyy too many things. But there is nothing sinister or evil about Biden. I think he means well and wants well for the people of this country, I just don't like his way of going about it. In all fairness Biden has shown more concern for the environment than trump ever did, and I think our ecological crisis is far more important than covid or anything else going on. thats what I fucking hated about trump. always put business/economy before the environment, and that is the line of thinking that got us into this mess

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:59 am
by randylahey
But regardless of their motive, the democratic party is using the same tactics we've seen terrible people in the past use to manipulate and gain control over a population. These are well documented tactics on how to gain power over a population, we've seen it time and time again in human history. But the have the advantage of the internet, social media, mainstream news, etc. controlling what people see and what they think makes it a lot easier to control a population to do what you want. the power grab stemming from all this that is being marketed as "for your safety" crossed the line a long time ago and is worth noting

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:10 pm
by sdoyel
pdub wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:38 am No one, even whataboutism illy, will take you seriously if you continue to spew this Facebook/Youtube/parler nonsense comparing the rise of Hitlers NDSAP in Germany to Bidens Democratic party.
It’s disgusting.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:12 pm
by sdoyel
randylahey wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:59 am But regardless of their motive, the democratic party is using the same tactics we've seen terrible people in the past use to manipulate and gain control over a population. These are well documented tactics on how to gain power over a population, we've seen it time and time again in human history. But the have the advantage of the internet, social media, mainstream news, etc. controlling what people see and what they think makes it a lot easier to control a population to do what you want. the power grab stemming from all this that is being marketed as "for your safety" crossed the line a long time ago and is worth noting
Isn’t the GOP trying to control what our kids learn in school? Do you think Germany no longer teaches about the Nazi regime in history class???

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:13 pm
by sdoyel
You get a shot. You go on with life.

That is government control?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:18 pm
by randylahey
sdoyel wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:12 pm
randylahey wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:59 am But regardless of their motive, the democratic party is using the same tactics we've seen terrible people in the past use to manipulate and gain control over a population. These are well documented tactics on how to gain power over a population, we've seen it time and time again in human history. But the have the advantage of the internet, social media, mainstream news, etc. controlling what people see and what they think makes it a lot easier to control a population to do what you want. the power grab stemming from all this that is being marketed as "for your safety" crossed the line a long time ago and is worth noting
Isn’t the GOP trying to control what our kids learn in school? Do you think Germany no longer teaches about the Nazi regime in history class???
The two are fighting over control of what our kids are taught. the public schools are government funded and government regulated, we might as well call them government schools at this point. there are teachers who are openly trying to indoctrinate kids based on their political beliefs.

the real sad thing about our school system, is that don't actually teach you any life skills these days. most kids memorize useless knowledge that they never use in the real world. but they get out of high school with no clue about things like paying bills, doing their taxes, mortgages, managing finances, gardening/hunting or how to provide their own foods, investing, etc.

all government schools do is set you up to be completely dependent on the system. the more government gets involved in the school systems the farther it has deteriorated

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:21 pm
by pdub
What the.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:35 pm
by PhDhawk
So.


Much.



Dumb.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:54 pm
by Overlander
randylahey wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:37 am
NotGutterGutter wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:38 am
randylahey wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:09 am

The Nazis literally labeled the jews as disease carriers, claimed they were responsible for the spread of typhus. They tried to convince people they needed to cleanse the world of jews to cleanse and protect the population from disease. they often used propaganda like this against their political opponents. Have you ever researched history? It's important to learn from
And yet you probably voted for Trump. Amiright?
trump defends the constitution at least.
I cannot. stop.laughing at your stupidity.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:55 pm
by randylahey
https://www.science.org/content/article ... ains-vital

heres a source for you. A large scale study done is israel. Showing that people who had already been infected with covid are much more resistant and less likely to get covid than people who have been vaccinated. Like I've been saying all along, the natural human immune system is a very powerful thing. Millions of americans have already had covid, the ones that beat covid (98/99% of people that had covid) do not need vaccines because the immune system develops a stronger defense than a vaccine can provide

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:55 pm
by Overlander
randylahey wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:18 pm
sdoyel wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:12 pm
randylahey wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:59 am But regardless of their motive, the democratic party is using the same tactics we've seen terrible people in the past use to manipulate and gain control over a population. These are well documented tactics on how to gain power over a population, we've seen it time and time again in human history. But the have the advantage of the internet, social media, mainstream news, etc. controlling what people see and what they think makes it a lot easier to control a population to do what you want. the power grab stemming from all this that is being marketed as "for your safety" crossed the line a long time ago and is worth noting
Isn’t the GOP trying to control what our kids learn in school? Do you think Germany no longer teaches about the Nazi regime in history class???
The two are fighting over control of what our kids are taught. the public schools are government funded and government regulated, we might as well call them government schools at this point. there are teachers who are openly trying to indoctrinate kids based on their political beliefs.

the real sad thing about our school system, is that don't actually teach you any life skills these days. most kids memorize useless knowledge that they never use in the real world. but they get out of high school with no clue about things like paying bills, doing their taxes, mortgages, managing finances, gardening/hunting or how to provide their own foods, investing, etc.
Yeah, my parents taught me this shit.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:58 pm
by randylahey
Overlander wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:54 pm
randylahey wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:37 am
NotGutterGutter wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:38 am

And yet you probably voted for Trump. Amiright?
trump defends the constitution at least.
I cannot. stop.laughing at your stupidity.
well you clearly don't pay attention to politics. which amendment in the constitution did he want to change? Biden has repeatedly made comments about it being outdated and wanting to change it. This countries government was built to serve the people. BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE