Kansas Crimson

Fuck this shit

We sucked.
Like a lot.
I hope we have fun at practice.

I hope Grimes learns to shoot and score at the rim in the off-season.

I’m still trying to decide if I should watch live PD or the second half.

No need to meltdown. This really shouldn't be a surprise at all. I said at the beginning of the week that beating all the double digit seeds we played would make me happy with the tourney and I will stand by that. I wish they were getting barrassed on national TV like this but maybe a few guys will be motivated by it spend the summer working hard to get better.

These guys need to get a lot better in the offseason to be the type of team they probably want to be next year.

No melting down. I'm proud of how our young guys (most of 'em) played in the 2nd half. This game will be a great teaching moment going forward. Gotta learn to handle the ball better for next year.

I think you can write this season in as Self's worst in his tenure here - some fault of his own, some not.

Be honest, give Self a grade since the Duke win a year ago.

Not good.

Same mistakes with this team over and over again.

If we're grading on an average Self season, then he gets a D.
If we're grading on an average season for a head coach of a division 1 NCAA team, he gets a B.

Not his fault that a guy breaks his second wrist, another guy is ineligible for some unknown reason, and another guy leaves at the worst possible time. Well, maybe some of it is on Self for taking back Vick. Maybe freshman Langford would have been better in the long run.

De Sousa, Vick and Moore are all on Self. Huge parts of the season.

Villanova lost today by 25 and they had more returning players this year than we did. Time to fire Jay Wright.

pdub wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:32 pm If we're grading on an average Self season, then he gets a D.
If we're grading on an average season for a head coach of a division 1 NCAA team, he gets a B.

With both Vick and Dok, this Kansas team played the following tourney teams away from home:
beat #2 seed Michigan State by 5
beat #2 seed Tennessee by 6
beat #5 seed Marquette by 9

Without both Vick and Dok, this Kansas team played the following tourney teams away from home:
lost to #3 seed Texas Tech by 29
lost to #5 seed Auburn by 14
lost to #6 seed Iowa State by 12
lost to #9 seed Oklahoma by 13

I think we missed having both Vick and Dok on the team. They fact that he got this team to this many wins and 3rd in the Big 12 is a damn coaching miracle. One of Self's best accomplishments quite honestly.

lobster wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:35 pm Not his fault that a guy breaks his second wrist, another guy is ineligible for some unknown reason, and another guy leaves at the worst possible time. Well, maybe some of it is on Self for taking back Vick. Maybe freshman Langford would have been better in the long run.

Langford wasn't an option. He was always going to choose to be the hometown hero.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:05 am

pdub wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:32 pm If we're grading on an average Self season, then he gets a D.
If we're grading on an average season for a head coach of a division 1 NCAA team, he gets a B.

With both Vick and Dok, this Kansas team played the following tourney teams away from home:
beat #2 seed Michigan State by 5
beat #2 seed Tennessee by 6
beat #5 seed Marquette by 9

Without both Vick and Dok, this Kansas team played the following tourney teams away from home:
lost to #3 seed Texas Tech by 29
lost to #5 seed Auburn by 14
lost to #6 seed Iowa State by 12
lost to #9 seed Oklahoma by 13

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#perspective

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:38 pm De Sousa, Vick and Moore are all on Self. Huge parts of the season.

I'd add Grimes.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:22 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:38 pm De Sousa, Vick and Moore are all on Self. Huge parts of the season.

I'd add Grimes.

Yes, but I don’t fault Self for offering and matriculating him.

lol, you lawyers are all about assigning false blame to people. Shit happens. No one is to blame if a meteor hits a home.