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Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:13 pm
by dolomite
Both are bad but why does Rashida Tlaib condem only white nationalism? I guess she forgets about 9/11. et.al.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... st_attacks


"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith." Winston Churchill (Obama, not a fan of)

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:24 pm
by defixione
Ummmm . . . because more than 2/3s of the domestic terrorism that occurred last year were carried out by white supremacists?

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:44 pm
by dolomite
defixione wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:24 pm Ummmm . . . because more than 2/3s of the domestic terrorism that occurred last year were carried out by white supremacists?
So the remaining third is just to be ignored. Got it.

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:51 pm
by defixione
Maybe just addressing the most ominous threat?

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:05 pm
by dolomite
defixione wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:51 pm Maybe just addressing the most ominous threat?
more ominous than 9/11.

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:10 pm
by Geezer
How many attacks since?

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:16 pm
by dolomite
Geezer wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:10 pm How many attacks since?
One is too many.

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:18 pm
by Deleted User 62
dolomite wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:16 pm
Geezer wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:10 pm How many attacks since?
One is too many.
NM

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:21 pm
by Deleted User 62
Ok, I see 3 attacks attributed to Islamists since 9/11 on US soil.

Weren't there 3 attacks attributed to white nationalists in March, 19?

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:35 pm
by dolomite
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:18 pm
dolomite wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:16 pm
Geezer wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:10 pm How many attacks since?
One is too many.
Name one.
LOL, now I know your pushing my buttons man, but here's just one, you asked for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_ ... ino_attack

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:53 pm
by Geezer
That one, the nightclub in Orlando, don't recall another.
Meanwhile on the white shooter front....

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:58 pm
by dolomite
Geezer wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:53 pm That one, the nightclub in Orlando, don't recall another.
Meanwhile on the white shooter front....
The one I mentioned, in San Bernadino. Ah well, I guess they don't matter.

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:21 pm
by defixione
Actually, San Bernadino terrorists were home grown violent extremists, inspired by foreign and domestic terrorist groups but not directed by any of those groups, and were not part of any terrorist cell or network.

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:04 pm
by Deleted User 62
defixione wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:21 pm Actually, San Bernadino terrorists were home grown violent extremists, inspired by foreign and domestic terrorist groups but not directed by any of those groups, and were not part of any terrorist cell or network.
Ummm, were they brown?

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:05 pm
by Deleted User 62
dolomite wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:58 pm
Geezer wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:53 pm That one, the nightclub in Orlando, don't recall another.
Meanwhile on the white shooter front....
The one I mentioned, in San Bernadino. Ah well, I guess they don't matter.
It's not that they don't matter. It's that they are fairly small in numbers compared to the actions of some right wing radicals.

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:27 pm
by zsn
dolomite wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:44 pm
defixione wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:24 pm Ummmm . . . because more than 2/3s of the domestic terrorism that occurred last year were carried out by white supremacists?
So the remaining third is just to be ignored. Got it.
We did something in the days/years following, such as enhanced screening, taking shoes off at the airport etc. What have we done about white nationalists stocking up on assault rifles and high-capacity magazines?

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:38 pm
by DCHawk1
Geezer wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:53 pm That one, the nightclub in Orlando, don't recall another.
Meanwhile on the white shooter front....
San Bernardino

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:40 pm
by DCHawk1
defixione wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:21 pm Actually, San Bernadino terrorists were home grown violent extremists, inspired by foreign and domestic terrorist groups but not directed by any of those groups, and were not part of any terrorist cell or network.
The same applied to the white supremacists, who pioneered the "cell" organization that al Qaeda studied and sought to duplicate.

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:42 pm
by DCHawk1
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:05 pm
dolomite wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:58 pm
Geezer wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:53 pm That one, the nightclub in Orlando, don't recall another.
Meanwhile on the white shooter front....
The one I mentioned, in San Bernadino. Ah well, I guess they don't matter.
It's not that they don't matter. It's that they are fairly small in numbers compared to the actions of some right wing radicals.
This is just bullshit.

The overwhelming majority of hate crimes in this country are carried out against one people and are notably NOT carried out by anyone associated with "the Right."

Re: Islamic terrorism vs, white nationalism

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:46 pm
by DCHawk1
zsn wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:27 pm
dolomite wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:44 pm
defixione wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:24 pm Ummmm . . . because more than 2/3s of the domestic terrorism that occurred last year were carried out by white supremacists?
So the remaining third is just to be ignored. Got it.
We did something in the days/years following, such as enhanced screening, taking shoes off at the airport etc. What have we done about white nationalists stocking up on assault rifles and high-capacity magazines?
This is the same bullshit that was peddled in the 1990s -- when it was my job to follow it. It was untrue then, and it's equally untrue now. Most of it -- then and now -- is based exaggerated data created specifically for the purpose of raising funds by one organization, featured, interestingly enough, in the "feel good story of the year!"