Kansas Crimson

Gone?

yes

Meh.

Doesn't matter.

All depends on which K.J. Lawson we are talking about.
The KU K.J. Lawson? I agree. Meh and doesn't matter.
The sophomore Memphis K.J. Lawson? I disagree. He had games of 18 points 10 boards, 20 points 9 boards, 12 points 19 boards, 20 points 12 boards, 19 points 13 boards, 17 points 10 boards, 13 points 10 boards, 14 points 10 boards, 11 points 11 boards, 25 points 8 boards, and 28 points and 16 boards.
Can't help but ask what the fuck happened and/or did Self & company ruin the kid?

You still going to run with this?

Gutter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:14 pm All depends on which K.J. Lawson we are talking about.
The KU K.J. Lawson? I agree. Meh and doesn't matter.
The sophomore Memphis K.J. Lawson? I disagree. He had games of 18 points 10 boards, 20 points 9 boards, 12 points 19 boards, 20 points 12 boards, 19 points 13 boards, 17 points 10 boards, 13 points 10 boards, 14 points 10 boards, 11 points 11 boards, 25 points 8 boards, and 28 points and 16 boards.
Can't help but ask what the fuck happened and/or did Self & company ruin the kid?

Against who?

PortlandHawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:27 pm

Gutter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:14 pm All depends on which K.J. Lawson we are talking about.
The KU K.J. Lawson? I agree. Meh and doesn't matter.
The sophomore Memphis K.J. Lawson? I disagree. He had games of 18 points 10 boards, 20 points 9 boards, 12 points 19 boards, 20 points 12 boards, 19 points 13 boards, 17 points 10 boards, 13 points 10 boards, 14 points 10 boards, 11 points 11 boards, 25 points 8 boards, and 28 points and 16 boards.
Can't help but ask what the fuck happened and/or did Self & company ruin the kid?

Against who?

Better teams than what you'll find in say the summit league, for example.

Gutter's right, we need to Shitcan this Self guy.

He takes a couple of established, mediocre players....and makes them mediocrer.

Gutter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:14 pm All depends on which K.J. Lawson we are talking about.
The KU K.J. Lawson? I agree. Meh and doesn't matter.
The sophomore Memphis K.J. Lawson? I disagree. He had games of 18 points 10 boards, 20 points 9 boards, 12 points 19 boards, 20 points 12 boards, 19 points 13 boards, 17 points 10 boards, 13 points 10 boards, 14 points 10 boards, 11 points 11 boards, 25 points 8 boards, and 28 points and 16 boards.
Can't help but ask what the fuck happened and/or did Self & company ruin the kid?

And you know that his team was awful with him getting such high usage. You just want attention. Congrats, you got it.

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:20 pm You still going to run with this?

always

can’t help himself

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:20 pm You still going to run with this?

yes

PortlandHawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:27 pm

Gutter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:14 pm All depends on which K.J. Lawson we are talking about.
The KU K.J. Lawson? I agree. Meh and doesn't matter.
The sophomore Memphis K.J. Lawson? I disagree. He had games of 18 points 10 boards, 20 points 9 boards, 12 points 19 boards, 20 points 12 boards, 19 points 13 boards, 17 points 10 boards, 13 points 10 boards, 14 points 10 boards, 11 points 11 boards, 25 points 8 boards, and 28 points and 16 boards.
Can't help but ask what the fuck happened and/or did Self & company ruin the kid?

Against who?

Since it seems you want to discount his accomplishments and competition (including the 28 and 16 game against "mid major" Houston) I'll come up with some numbers against "power conferences" for you.
19/13 against Oklahoma (You know - a Big 12 school) Other than Frank Mason please tell me what KU player put up those numbers against Oklahoma in 2016/2017. Not even the NBA #4 pick Josh Jackson did. Right?
17/10 against Iowa (You know - a Big 10 school - the same Big 10 school that beat the Big 12's ISU by 14 that season. Big deal - right? Well, Elite 8 KU beat ISU by 4 one game and lost to them in another game.

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:35 pm Gutter's right, we need to Shitcan this Self guy.

He takes a couple of established, mediocre players....and makes them mediocrer.

Never said on this thread or in relation to K.J.s lack of success at KU that we should shitcan Self. Did I?
K.J. may be "mediocre" but he's proven he can be better than "mediocre".

Mjl wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:32 pm

Gutter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:14 pm All depends on which K.J. Lawson we are talking about.
The KU K.J. Lawson? I agree. Meh and doesn't matter.
The sophomore Memphis K.J. Lawson? I disagree. He had games of 18 points 10 boards, 20 points 9 boards, 12 points 19 boards, 20 points 12 boards, 19 points 13 boards, 17 points 10 boards, 13 points 10 boards, 14 points 10 boards, 11 points 11 boards, 25 points 8 boards, and 28 points and 16 boards.
Can't help but ask what the fuck happened and/or did Self & company ruin the kid?

And you know that his team was awful with him getting such high usage. You just want attention. Congrats, you got it.

Granted he had probably his worst college game of his career against them - his "awful" team was good enough to beat Final Four South Carolina by 16. Right?
Thanks for giving me attention!

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:05 am

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:20 pm You still going to run with this?

always

can’t help himself

True!
Busted and guilty as charged.
And?

He would have been good depth.
It’s a loss but certainly not that big a one.
I think it 100% confirms what we knew: Dedric declaring.

I think a number of transfers could bring what KJ did.

The more impactful questions of guys on our roster:
1. Does Dok stay ( not a good chance )
2. Does DeSousa win his appeal ( also not a good chance but better )
3. Does Grimes stay ( decent chance )

Ah, I see the gutterless discussion of this is on the recruiting thread.

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:43 am He would have been good depth.
It’s a loss but certainly not that big a one.
I think it 100% confirms what we knew: Dedric declaring.

I think a number of transfers could bring what KJ did.

The more impactful questions of guys on our roster:
1. Does Dok stay ( not a good chance )
2. Does DeSousa win his appeal ( also not a good chance but better )
3. Does Grimes stay ( decent chance )

1. Hopeful but doubtful.
2. My worthless guess is.... It won't matter. He should be gone and like Preston (with hopefully better long term results) he basically gives the NCAA a fuck you.
3. 3 big options for him and another worthless guess...... All 3 are being seriously almost equally considered. I say he tests without an agent (I'm assuming guys can still do that but am not 100% sure) and then returns to KU. Unfortunately for him he got caught up in a numbers game this past season - and may have come out on the losing end.

What I would like to know is why hasn't kusports.com reported this yet?