Kansas Crimson

The Kansas Constitution protects a woman's right to an abortion, the state's supreme court ruled Friday.

The landmark ruling now stands as the law of the land in Kansas with no path for an appeal. Because it turns on the state's constitution, abortion would remain legal in Kansas even if the Roe v. Wade case that established a national right to abortion is ever reversed by the U.S. Supreme Court.

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well yeah, but when has the pro-life crowd ever had any regard for settled law?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:39 pm well yeah, but when has the pro-life crowd ever had any regard for settled law?

You mean like Citizens United?

qft:

The decision, in which one of the seven justices dissented, cites in its first sentence the first section of the Kansas Constitution's Bill of Rights: "All men are possessed of equal and inalienable natural rights, among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

The decision continues: "We are now asked: 'Is this declaration of rights more than an idealized aspiration? And, if so, do the substantive rights include a woman's right to make decisions about her body, including the decision whether to continue her pregnancy? We answer these questions, 'Yes.' "

The court continued that "this right allows a woman to make her own decisions regarding her body, health, family formation, and family life — decisions that can include whether to continue a pregnancy."

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DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:01 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:39 pm well yeah, but when has the pro-life crowd ever had any regard for settled law?

You mean like Citizens United?

Well if, over 4 decades later, there is still a substantial number of voters who vote, regardless of the candidate, or the candidate’s red flags, based singularly on the goal of stacking the Supreme Court, in hopes of eventually overturning Citizens United, then maybe.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:27 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:01 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:39 pm well yeah, but when has the pro-life crowd ever had any regard for settled law?

You mean like Citizens United?

Well if, over 4 decades later, there is still a substantial number of voters who vote, regardless of the candidate, or the candidate’s red flags, based singularly on the goal of stacking the Supreme Court, in hopes of eventually overturning Citizens United, then maybe.

wut?

That's a dodge.

Is Citizens United "settled law," or are only decisions you like settled law?

That wasn’t his point.

Is it just me, or does it occur to anyone else that DC would rather not talk about the Ks. Supreme Court decision?

#dodge

Ohh, we have a Challenger to DC’s post!

Leawood wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:57 pm That wasn’t his point.

You're right. It was MY point. And since I asked the question...well...you know.

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:10 pm Is it just me, or does it occur to anyone else that DC would rather not talk about the Ks. Supreme Court decision?

#dodge

What's to say?

That it's further proof that the Left's HySTeriA about Roe is ridiculous and overblown?

Well...OK. If you insist.

It's further proof that the Left's hYstERIa about Roe is ridiculous and overblown.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:14 pm Ohh, we have a Challenger to DC’s post!

Ok, this is funny. In very unfunny topic.

Soooo glad Wilt wasn’t aborted.
Too bad Dahmer wasn’t.

Do you know what his point was, DC? And if you did, admit you were trying to change the subject.

What’s lost is how different the Federal and Kansas Constitutions are written. Roe is settled law. Kavanaugh said so. And the current court is going to apply it in support of 20 week gestation bans on abortion.

Now is no time for touchdown celebrations of “abortion rights” folks.

Leawood wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:36 pm Do you know what his point was, DC? And if you did, admit you were trying to change the subject.

What’s lost is how different the Federal and Kansas Constitutions are written. Roe is settled law. Kavanaugh said so. And the current court is going to apply it in support of 20 week gestation bans on abortion.

Now is no time for touchdown celebrations of “abortion rights” folks.

Republicans/Trump packed the court by stealing a seat.

You must be so proud.

Leawood wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:36 pm Do you know what his point was, DC? And if you did, admit you were trying to change the subject.

What’s lost is how different the Federal and Kansas Constitutions are written. Roe is settled law. Kavanaugh said so. And the current court is going to apply it in support of 20 week gestation bans on abortion.

Now is no time for touchdown celebrations of “abortion rights” folks.

Sure. His point was that Roe is settled law. Cuz he wants it to be. (And Citizens United isn't cuz he doesn't want it to be).

And once upon a time Dred Scott was settled law.

And no, the differences between the federal constitution and Kansas' constitution was NOT lost, on me anyway. I don't particularly care for the decision, but that's what federalism is all about.

When we've changed the culture enough that there is a sufficient majority of Kansans willing to amend the state constitution, then we'll have won. Until then, it is what it it is.

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:09 pm

Leawood wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:36 pm Do you know what his point was, DC? And if you did, admit you were trying to change the subject.

What’s lost is how different the Federal and Kansas Constitutions are written. Roe is settled law. Kavanaugh said so. And the current court is going to apply it in support of 20 week gestation bans on abortion.

Now is no time for touchdown celebrations of “abortion rights” folks.

Republicans/Trump packed the court by stealing a seat.

You must be so proud.

Goebbel's is proud that you're carrying on the tradition. Does that help?

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:12 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:09 pm

Leawood wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:36 pm Do you know what his point was, DC? And if you did, admit you were trying to change the subject.

What’s lost is how different the Federal and Kansas Constitutions are written. Roe is settled law. Kavanaugh said so. And the current court is going to apply it in support of 20 week gestation bans on abortion.

Now is no time for touchdown celebrations of “abortion rights” folks.

Republicans/Trump packed the court by stealing a seat.

You must be so proud.

Goebbel's is proud that you're carrying on the tradition. Does that help?

Glibly resorting to Nazis suits you lately.