Kansas Crimson

Everybody rest easy.

Bloomberg seems to be winning the aggravation game:

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:35 pm Everybody rest easy.

Like any good dictator.

99.7% of the vote?

BTW,

Nicely done Dems. If the Iowa caucuses are any indication, Trump will, indeed, be President for Life.

Hey, as a Florida Democrat, I'm proud to say that our state party tried to diminish the unrepresentative, undemocratic, lily white Iowa spectacle way back in 2008 and got dinged pretty badly for it. Maybe the FDP looks somewhat prescient tonight.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:40 pm BTW,

Nicely done Dems. If the Iowa caucuses are any indication, Trump will, indeed, be President for Life.

They've f---ed this up themselves by focusing on this stupid impeachment bullshit rather than really focusing on improving their product.

No, they screwed up by trying to accommodate Bernie--karma can be a tough thing.

The new rules were mandated by the Democratic National Committee as part of a package of changes sought by Sanders following his loss to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential primaries. The revisions were designed to make the caucus system more transparent and to make sure that even the lowest-performing candidates get credit for all the votes they receive. But party officials in Iowa and at the DNC have privately expressed concerns in recent weeks that not just Sanders but multiple campaigns will spin the results in their favor, potentially creating chaos on caucus night.

https://apnews.com/ce049651af41d729193cf574be5465af

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:40 pm BTW,

Nicely done Dems. If the Iowa caucuses are any indication, Trump will, indeed, be President for Life.

nice

blame the other party cuz your party’s guy is a worthless piece of shit

Take your blinders off. They’re all a piece of $#!t.

Have to love this tweet.

This debacle should make you appreciate the senior citizen volunteers who actually run American democracy on Election Day.

— 𝐉𝐚𝐲 𝐂𝐨𝐬𝐭 (@JayCostTWS) February 4, 2020

What a disaster. Think of how this robs "the winner" of the benefits, e.g., free advertising and fund raising boost, that accrues to the Iowa caucus winner. But, that being said:

Today In: "Both Sides Do It!":

The republican presidential caucus was held on Jan. 3, 2012, and the republican party of Iowa didn't announce the official results until almost 3 weeks later. And, the head of the GOP in Iowa resigned.

January 21, 2012 Rick Santorum is officially the winner of the Jan. 3 Iowa Republican presidential caucus. The state Republican Party reversed itself from a previous assertion that it would not declare one, given problems at eight precincts, as The Des Moines Register reported.

In a news release late Friday, the party said it called the race "in order to clarify conflicting reports and to affirm the results released Jan. 18 by the Republican Party of Iowa."

The preliminary count on the Jan. 3 caucus put former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney ahead by eight votes, as NPR reported that night. Later, the party said there was no official winner, though a recanvassing of the votes showed Santorum won by 34 votes.

We will update with more as we have it from NPR's Don Gonyea.

Update at 1:07 a.m. ET. Unexpected Confusion

Gonyea tells NPR's Newscast desk that the email was sent shortly before midnight ET. He says that just over two weeks after the actual caucus, when the votes had been certified, the state GOP "essentially called it a draw" between Romney and Santorum because of missing votes. He adds:

"This presidential campaign was already strange because of all the ups and downs — candidates taking turns being the front-runner and then being knocked down and then another one rising. But no one expected that the results of the Iowa caucuses, the very first contest, would be talked about amid such confusion for so long." [...]

lulz

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:22 am

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:40 pm BTW,

Nicely done Dems. If the Iowa caucuses are any indication, Trump will, indeed, be President for Life.

nice

blame the other party cuz your party’s guy is a worthless piece of shit

lulz...

It's a joke.

And by "it" I mean both my post and your party.

Have to figure this will mean the end of the Iowa caucuses (or at least their stupidly-heightened relevance).

Which is a not-insignificant economic blow to a struggling state.

So, was it the Iowa caucus meltdown in 2012 that broke the Republican Party and turned it into the joke that it is now?

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:41 am Have to figure this will mean the end of the Iowa caucuses (or at least their stupidly-heightened relevance).

Which is a not-insignificant economic blow to a struggling state.

Hopefully this will be a chance for democrats to move the first contest to a much more representative state, like Michigan. Not that New Hampshire would be OK with that, but having 3 states vote before blacks have significant representation, is dum.

Seems like it would be a good thing to move the first contests around. One result of having a contest in a swing state that goes first is that the voting systems in that state get a lot of publicity long before the actual election and there might actually be an impetus to at least try to run it properly.

Voter suppression in Detroit, all kinds of problems in Pennsylvania, and as Georgia becomes more of a swing state--with unreal stuff that makes everyone else look good, even Broward County.

I think coin tosses should be a part of all political games.

lobster wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:54 am

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:40 pm BTW,

Nicely done Dems. If the Iowa caucuses are any indication, Trump will, indeed, be President for Life.

They've f---ed this up themselves by focusing on this stupid impeachment bullshit rather than really focusing on improving their product.

Stick to trolling and YouTube videos. This really doesn't make any sense.