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Foreign election interference
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:07 pm
by ousdahl
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:15 pm
by jfish26
Murphy is a member of the Gang of Eight, meaning he gets the most sensitive intelligence:
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:36 am
by Deleted User 310
jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:15 pm
Murphy is a member of the Gang of Eight, meaning he gets the most sensitive intelligence:
This didnt age well...
Today CNN says China is running interference to help Biden. Iran is as well.
Russia is doing it to assist Trump.
Wonder if trump will come out and say anything about it now that it is clear some of it is to help Biden?
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:00 am
by jfish26
None of us are in a position to say much with confidence. I have read from outlets I tend to trust that the China and Iran things are of a different degree and scale of what Russia is doing; China may prefer Biden, for example, but they’re not fucking with things like Russia is.
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:12 am
by TDub
Ive learned not to trust China. Or Russia.
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:47 am
by ousdahl
Another big difference between China and Russia is, potus isn’t all suspiciously cozy with China?
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:14 am
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:47 am
Another big difference between China and Russia is, potus isn’t all suspiciously cozy with China?
No. But the rumor is that Biden is.
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:19 am
by ousdahl
Ukraine too?
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:22 am
by TDub
Huh? Were talking about china interfering. And Russia.
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:26 am
by ousdahl
I’d be curious to learn more about Biden and China.
Where are you hearing this?
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:04 am
by TDub
Rumors of Biden using his political forum to influence investments with China backed enterprises
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go ... d=66111282
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:05 am
by TDub
Not saying Trump is the best source, but Ive read it other places. Havent had the time to track them back downtoday
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:10 am
by jfish26
It smacks to me of the usual false equivalencies and whataboutism.
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:15 am
by TDub
it would. Except i read about it before trump was president.
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:16 am
by TDub
either way, politicians involving themselves in foreign investments whole serving seems like a bad idea. Nefarious or benign.
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:18 am
by Deleted User 318
Wait, are we all forgetting that Trump literally just got impeached for trying to get foreign interference, lying about it, and trying to cover it up (and still is?). And literally for the first time ever, a person from the president's party voted to remove the president from office because it was so egregious?
And, also, Hunter Biden is not running for anything. If Hunter Biden wanted to use his name to try and garner better deals from China, then arrest Hunter if he broke any laws. I don't know what this has to do with Joe Biden.
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:19 am
by Deleted User 318
TDub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:16 am
either way, politicians involving themselves in foreign investments whole serving seems like a bad idea. Nefarious or benign.
Boy, let me tell you about this Trump family.
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:22 am
by jfish26
TDub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:16 am
either way, politicians involving themselves in foreign investments whole serving seems like a bad idea. Nefarious or benign.
If only there were, like,
laws about this. And a process by which an executive could be held to account for it.
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:24 am
by jfish26
NiceDC wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:18 am
Wait, are we all forgetting that Trump literally just got impeached for trying to get foreign interference, lying about it, and trying to cover it up (and still is?). And literally for the first time ever, a person from the president's party voted to remove the president from office because it was so egregious?
And, also, Hunter Biden is not running for anything. If Hunter Biden wanted to use his name to try and garner better deals from China, then arrest Hunter if he broke any laws. I don't know what this has to do with Joe Biden.
Something something private server something Steele Dossier something something lovers something something something Benghazi something Obama.
Re: Foreign election interference
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:27 am
by Deleted User 318
I do love how Benghazi is being brought up again due to Susan Rice rumblings. I don't think rank and file GOP base even remember what actually happened (if they ever knew). Was reading the comments on a story about it, and someone was talking about how we shouldn't forget the hundreds that died in Benghazi.