Kansas Crimson

i apologize in advance if this offends anyone, but it seems to me that cemeteries and burial rituals in general are some of the most bizarre things most of our global society engages in

the cost alone - plot, headstone, casket, and service - have made me request that nothing of the sort be done “for me” when i die

not even gonna get into the whole embalming, makeup, and open casket scenario

i honestly wish it weren’t illegal in this country to just throw my rotting corpse on a pyre and set it ablaze

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:06 am i apologize in advance if this offends anyone, but it seems to me that cemeteries and burial rituals in general are some of the most bizarre things most of our global society engages in

the cost alone - plot, headstone, casket, and service - have made me request that nothing of the sort be done “for me” when i die

not even gonna get into the whole embalming, makeup, and open casket scenario

i honestly wish it weren’t illegal in this country to just throw my rotting corpse on a pyre and set it ablaze

Completely agree. Burying your dead is fucking weird. Burn and spread the ashes.

I agree - it's odd - but we do plenty of odd stuff as humans.
And oddities abound when it comes to the mystery of death.
But I am into cemeteries though ( no, i'm not a necro ) - Halloween is my 1b to 1a xmas and there's just something creepy about a field of death with those old stones.

My best friend lost his dad when we were 14. They did the full casket/ceremony/burial/headstone thing, and the gravesite remained a place we would go into our 20s, when we were in that town. I think that was all very meaningful for my friend and his family.

Colored by that experience, my instructions are that if I die "young" (meaning I still have non-adult children), I want the full monty. After that, yep, fastest/cheapest/easiest.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:25 am I agree - it's odd - but we do plenty of odd stuff as humans.
And oddities abound when it comes to the mystery of death.
But I am into cemeteries though ( no, i'm not a necro ) - Halloween is my 1b to 1a xmas and there's just something creepy about a field of death with those old stones.

i too have a fascination with cemeteries

used to love photographing them back when i was into photography and was processing my own b&w film

and, always found it interesting to look at ages and dates of death on headstones, particularly as they related to things like wars and pandemics

still, it all seems like such a “waste”

i was fortunate to witness a “funeral” celebration when i was in Cameroon. it was fucking awesome...a big potluck gathering with tons of music and traditional costumes and dancing...i don’t know for certain, but imagine the deceased was buried (many are there)

for me, it’s cremation...haven’t really decided beyond that tho. there used to be a company in Florida that would take cremates remains and mix them with a special concrete mixture, that would then be formed into a porous swiss cheese-like structure that would be dropped at the margins of the coral reefs. i always thought that was kinda cool, but again, an odd way to spend a lot money (on a dead person)

I wanna be fossilized

I wanna be frozen in carbonite

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:06 am i apologize in advance if this offends anyone, but it seems to me that cemeteries and burial rituals in general are some of the most bizarre things most of our global society engages in

the cost alone - plot, headstone, casket, and service - have made me request that nothing of the sort be done “for me” when i die

not even gonna get into the whole embalming, makeup, and open casket scenario

i honestly wish it weren’t illegal in this country to just throw my rotting corpse on a pyre and set it ablaze

100% agreed. Why people pay a ton of money for a burial plot so that their body can be injected full of toxic chemicals and buried with hundreds of pounds of concrete, metal and fabric is beyond me.

My hope is to donate my body to science, specifically to someone researching CTE. I have had a lot of concussions over the years (yeah, I know, it probably explains a lot) so if there is any positive that can be taken from my corpse then have at it. I'll be done with it.

Otherwise, just cremate me and be done with it. My kids can just get together annually at a KU game, think of me while they cheer on the Jayhawks and then raise a beer to me after they win. I don't need some graveside for them to visit. That's sad and depressing.

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:03 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:06 am i apologize in advance if this offends anyone, but it seems to me that cemeteries and burial rituals in general are some of the most bizarre things most of our global society engages in

the cost alone - plot, headstone, casket, and service - have made me request that nothing of the sort be done “for me” when i die

not even gonna get into the whole embalming, makeup, and open casket scenario

i honestly wish it weren’t illegal in this country to just throw my rotting corpse on a pyre and set it ablaze

100% agreed. Why people pay a ton of money for a burial plot so that their body can be injected full of toxic chemicals and buried with hundreds of pounds of concrete, metal and fabric is beyond me.

My hope is to donate my body to science, specifically to someone researching CTE. I have had a lot of concussions over the years (yeah, I know, it probably explains a lot) so if there is any positive that can be taken from my corpse then have at it. I'll be done with it.

Otherwise, just cremate me and be done with it. My kids can just get together annually at a KU game, think of me while they cheer on the Jayhawks and then raise a beer to me after they win. I don't need some graveside for them to visit. That's sad and depressing.

There's a very cool place in Tennessee or Kentucky (honestly, with limited exceptions, I don't know the difference) that uses cadavers to train body-sniffing dogs, homicide detectives, medical examiners, etc. I like that idea.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:08 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:03 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:06 am i apologize in advance if this offends anyone, but it seems to me that cemeteries and burial rituals in general are some of the most bizarre things most of our global society engages in

the cost alone - plot, headstone, casket, and service - have made me request that nothing of the sort be done “for me” when i die

not even gonna get into the whole embalming, makeup, and open casket scenario

i honestly wish it weren’t illegal in this country to just throw my rotting corpse on a pyre and set it ablaze

100% agreed. Why people pay a ton of money for a burial plot so that their body can be injected full of toxic chemicals and buried with hundreds of pounds of concrete, metal and fabric is beyond me.

My hope is to donate my body to science, specifically to someone researching CTE. I have had a lot of concussions over the years (yeah, I know, it probably explains a lot) so if there is any positive that can be taken from my corpse then have at it. I'll be done with it.

Otherwise, just cremate me and be done with it. My kids can just get together annually at a KU game, think of me while they cheer on the Jayhawks and then raise a beer to me after they win. I don't need some graveside for them to visit. That's sad and depressing.

There's a very cool place in Tennessee or Kentucky (honestly, with limited exceptions, I don't know the difference) that uses cadavers to train body-sniffing dogs, homicide detectives, medical examiners, etc. I like that idea.

years ago i dated a woman that was really into forensic pathology, and she told me about that place...bodies of all ages and stages of decomposition scattered about a wooded property

wife’s grandmother told her recently that she’d never be an organ donor or donate her body to science

i shit you not...her reasoning was because god might bring her back, and how could he do so if she’d had anything removed

what in the absolute fuck...

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:26 pm wife’s grandmother told her recently that she’d never be an organ donor or donate her body to science

i shit you not...her reasoning was because god might bring her back, and how could he do so if she’d had anything removed

what in the absolute fuck...

There is a thread somewhere about religion and stupidity.......

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:56 am I wanna be frozen in carbonite

You're gonna die in a sarlacc pit.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:40 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:26 pm wife’s grandmother told her recently that she’d never be an organ donor or donate her body to science

i shit you not...her reasoning was because god might bring her back, and how could he do so if she’d had anything removed

what in the absolute fuck...

There is a thread somewhere about religion and stupidity.......

that’s the saddest part for me. she’s actually relatively educated, particularly for her age. i think she’s in her mid-80s and has a bachelors (don’t recall what in), and i’ve had some decent science-based conversations with her

but, her religion trumps all. and hers is the right one, and the only one not made up by man (paraphrasing)

she is, however, one of the absolute nicest people i’ve ever known

Visited my father's and 4 grandparent's grave sites today.
My mother actually talked to my father and her parents.
I didn't have the heart to tell her they can't hear her.
I mean, they couldn't hear her. Right?
I guess I can't prove they couldn't hear her - can I?
Afterwards my mother told me that she was going to buy me a "plot" the same cemetery next to my grandparents. There isn't one next to my father's and where she will be buried and..... she doesn't have money to throw away.
I told her not to because depending on how long I live, there may not be anyone to oversee my funeral nor will there be anyone who will want to come to the cemetery to visit me after I am buried.
Was not a pleasant conversation.
I don't want to be cremated but I also don't need nor want to be put in a several thousand dollar box 6 feet underground. That fucking creeps me out when I think about it.

Side note - My mother's parents are buried within spitting distance of Abe Saperstein. If you don't know who he was and care...
https://www.hoophall.com/hall-of-famers/abe-saperstein/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe_Saperstein

https://townofcrestone.colorado.gov/cemetery-history They dig a hole with a backhoe and then drop your naked unprocessed ass in the hole and cover you with sand.

http://informedfinalchoices.org/creston ... a%20shroud. It's like a Viking funeral but without a boat and water and arrows and shit.

I agree, in my will, I have stated I just want cremation and my ashes to be scattered. No wake, no embalming, no casket, nothing.

On a side note, I attended a co-workers wake for his son who died tragically several years ago. The wake was almost 10 days after he died. It was an open casket and it was just creepy. I was haunted with his image for days.

japhy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:00 pm http://informedfinalchoices.org/creston ... a%20shroud. It's like a Viking funeral but without a boat and water and arrows and shit.

had no idea such things were legal anywhere here in the states

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:22 am

japhy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:00 pm http://informedfinalchoices.org/creston ... a%20shroud. It's like a Viking funeral but without a boat and water and arrows and shit.

had no idea such things were legal anywhere here in the states

I didn't either, there is a lot that isn't legal most anywhere else but is done out in this part of Colorado. I drove up there one day to see the funeral pyre. It just sits out there in the open desert and you can walk right in and look around. The town cemetery is interesting as well, being a "green" cemetery. It only costs $750 for a plot that will hold four bodies. They don't allow tombstones but you can build sculptures out of rocks and tree branches. Our research determined it would be simplest if you die in Colorado because transporting bodies across state lines when they have not been embalmed could be an issue. If you own 40 acres you can bury yourself on your property out there. You just have to notify the County Sheriff's office so they can take GPS coordinates of the location and document it on the County parcel maps.